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Firsttimeflyer 10-29-2019 02:58 AM

Word at TK is guppy instructors having fly days moved from DEC to NOV in preparation for the start of major new hire training come DEC.
And more big bids to come

JoePatroni 10-29-2019 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 2914209)
I just talked to my LEC Rep the other day, and he said that the next couple of bids are going to be big bids. That is what they are being told by the Company. For what that’s worth???

I heard the same thing from a LHR van driver so it’s a lock.

That Guy 74 10-29-2019 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 2913069)
It’s one thing to knowingly take a 2yr seat lock into the 777 and know what you’re getting. It’s another to be forced into a 756 which will keep you on the coasts for 2yrs. So yes, I can understand those frustrated watching people junior scoop up their home town in a vacancy. For once AA beats us at something, seat lock rules for new hires.

You know what being "...forced into a 756 which will keep you on the coasts for 2yrs" beats?

Changing the @#!itter on a King Air after it was dominated by some rich p×!ck whose kids destroyed the cabin and made it look like a Cheerio factory exploded.

Or getting rained on torrentially while it's 38 degrees outside and you're securing a load on a 48' flatbed. Don't forget the two 100 lb.. tarps you had to manhandle up on top of the load because the forklift driver didn't want to be in the rain and wind any longer than absolutely necessary to load your trailer.

PERSPECTIVE. Get some.

If you're so unhappy the world needs ditch diggers too.

That Guy 74 10-29-2019 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer (Post 2914240)
Word at TK is guppy instructors having fly days moved from DEC to NOV in preparation for the start of major new hire training come DEC.
And more big bids to come

Class starting BI today has 40 people in it.

Heard potentially a class a week in the New Year for quite a few weeks.

Good time to be at United.

Broncofan 10-29-2019 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Oskeewowow (Post 2912422)
It's been very frustrating for 756 hires that had no choice on equipment and live in DEN, IAH, ORD. Almost 3 years seniority to hold ORD. 73/Bus pilots junior to us are bidding on to our equipment while we have to wait out a 2 year seatlock to be based at home.

Whining done....


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I completely agree. Seniority at the indoc should not be age based but random. Its age discrimination. Just because you are younger you are now forced into a seat that you might not want, making less money because it's going to take longer to be a line holder, worse schedules and most likely committing. United I'm sure at some point will have a law suit.

DontGetHooked 10-29-2019 09:24 AM

If you dont like what was dealt just keep your apps updated. A 757 type rating might look good on a resume.

Vernon Demerest 10-29-2019 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 2914420)
I completely agree. Seniority at the indoc should not be age based but random. Its age discrimination. Just because you are younger you are now forced into a seat that you might not want, making less money because it's going to take longer to be a line holder, worse schedules and most likely committing. United I'm sure at some point will have a law suit.

A lawsuit in which they will win. Seniority has to start somewhere and as the youngest in my class over a decade ago, I get it. Short term pain. My class already has its oldest retiring within 2 years while I and others have over 20 years to go, the last decade of which (if we stay healthy) will have us under 10% seniority systemwide and retiring sub 100. Why is it not fair to give those who made the move later in life a temporary leg up?

JoePatroni 10-29-2019 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 2914420)
I completely agree. Seniority at the indoc should not be age based but random. Its age discrimination. Just because you are younger you are now forced into a seat that you might not want, making less money because it's going to take longer to be a line holder, worse schedules and most likely committing. United I'm sure at some point will have a law suit.

Suing your employer while on probation sounds like a winning strategy.

Broncofan 10-29-2019 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 2914428)
A lawsuit in which they will win. Seniority has to start somewhere and as the youngest in my class over a decade ago, I get it. Short term pain. My class already has its oldest retiring within 2 years while I and others have over 20 years to go, the last decade of which (if we stay healthy) will have us under 10% seniority systemwide and retiring sub 100. Why is it not fair to give those who made the move later in life a temporary leg up?

Because quite frankly I don't give a **** they got hired the same time as me but older.. pull seniority out of a hat, use social security numbers, but it is age discrimination the way it's done now. And no I don't think they would win because I think there have been similar law suits in the past where they have lost. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that's why old united did it according to social security numbers.

Broncofan 10-29-2019 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2914432)
Suing your employer while on probation sounds like a winning strategy.

That's why you do it after. Not rocket science.


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