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GoCats67 10-22-2019 12:32 PM

results are out::

EWR 320 24 unfilled
EWR 737 31 unfilled
LAX 320 2 unfilled
LAX 737 25 unfilled
SFO 320 25 unfilled
SFO 737 96 unfilled


SFO 787 FO went down to 13,000 ish seniority. About 200 from the bottom

rvfanatic 10-22-2019 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by GoCats67 (Post 2910544)
results are out::

EWR 320 24 unfilled
EWR 737 31 unfilled
LAX 320 2 unfilled
LAX 737 25 unfilled
SFO 320 25 unfilled
SFO 737 96 unfilled


SFO 787 FO went down to 13,000 ish seniority. About 200 from the bottom

What’s life going to be like for that new hire? How many years of RSV would that be on the 787?

MasterOfPuppets 10-22-2019 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 2910755)
What’s life going to be like for that new hire? How many years of RSV would that be on the 787?

Well iv been here 7 years and am still on reserve......but might be a line holder next summer. I’d be a 777 line holder in SFO and EWR

BAe3100FO 10-22-2019 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 2910755)
What’s life going to be like for that new hire? How many years of RSV would that be on the 787?

Probably 2 years when his/her seat lock is up and they bid 737/320 :)

GoCats67 10-22-2019 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 2910755)
What’s life going to be like for that new hire?

That depends.

If they live local in the SFO area it will be part excruciating pain smattered with some good times when they don't use you at all and you stay home getting paid.

If they are a commuter then it will just be the excruciating pain part!!

MasterOfPuppets 10-22-2019 06:48 PM

This bid went a lot more senior than I expected for its size.....a lot of senior WB FOs are finally taking the CA bid.

Shrek 10-22-2019 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 2910755)
What’s life going to be like for that new hire? How many years of RSV would that be on the 787?

I’d like to see the training footprint of THAT guy when he finally goes to a narrowbody LoL.

rvfanatic 10-23-2019 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by Shrek (Post 2910834)
I’d like to see the training footprint of THAT guy when he finally goes to a narrowbody LoL.

Good point. It’s too bad the incentives aren’t in place system wide (reserve rules, pay bands for 756, etc) to naturally keep the vacancies left for INDOC to 737/320. Those are great airplanes for new hires learning the system and needing reps. IRO/WB not so much.

It’s odd that many new hires have been forced into 756 and are seat locked for 2 yrs. Meanwhile, a new hire in 737 training (hypothetically) can bid 777. Doesn’t seem like it’s best for the company (more training costs) and definitely not the pilots who put themselves in that position.

UALinIAH 10-23-2019 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 2910908)
Good point. It’s too bad the incentives aren’t in place system wide (reserve rules, pay bands for 756, etc) to naturally keep the vacancies left for INDOC to 737/320. Those are great airplanes for new hires learning the system and needing reps. IRO/WB not so much.

It’s odd that many new hires have been forced into 756 and are seat locked for 2 yrs. Meanwhile, a new hire in 737 training (hypothetically) can bid 777. Doesn’t seem like it’s best for the company (more training costs) and definitely not the pilots who put themselves in that position.

A new hire who gets the 756 can also bid the 777. 8D is very clear. You can bid up to a higher seat. The only thing that would prevent it would be a Bidding freeze from 8-D-2. That’s not applicable to a new hire.

Vernon Demerest 10-23-2019 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 2910932)
A new hire who gets the 756 can also bid the 777. 8D is very clear. You can bid up to a higher seat. The only thing that would prevent it would be a Bidding freeze from 8-D-2. That’s not applicable to a new hire.

Indeed. In fact the new hire who held 777 while still in training was a 756 new hire. I had the pleasure of meeting him earlier this month. Super nice guy. Knows what he is getting himself into for the most part although there were plenty of suggestions/opinions thrown his way. Young guy, married and just separated from the AF with no roots to pull up so renting an apartment in the city (SFO) is doable for he and his wife. We are living in good times when people in their first 2 months have options like this. 27 year old 777 FO. 38 years to current mandatory retirement. He, and many others like him being hired this year should have excellent careers.


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