baseball

I do apologize for my rude treatment of the classy dude.

But, I think the lesson learned here is not to go out and say "fire" unless you really know something for a fact. And, if you actually knew something for a fact, you would likely do one of two things, if not both.
First, go to the individual and try and get him or her to make it right, and if not, go to the next LEC meeting and bring up article 8 charges.

So, maybe he actually saw fire. But, the fire I see in this case, is someone lawfully lighting up a cigar.

In cases of financial misconduct within ALPA all we have to do is look at the example of Bob Shoemaker to see how a local council deals with issues like that.

People that go cow tippin are those that are generally bored on a Saturday night with nothing better to do in BFE Alabama, or XYZ Missisippi, or ABC Arkansas. Some country hicks with no girl friend and no ammo for their shotgun to go shooting up stop signs at 2 o clock in the morning. So, I presumed he'd go cow tippin….sorry cows.

Sunvox

Besides having only one kidney, Fly, has a LONG and controversial history of involvement in ALPA as do many of his 570 peers. He definitely has won a few skirmishes that were worthwhile for the pilot group, but his views on life are very confused, and his treatment of others is often wholly lacking in empathy while at other times he can show amazing empathy. Very odd. I suppose you can forgive him for the "Holier than thou" attitude since he got hired young and has been a captain at UAL for much of his career. Lucky b@stird has many years to go and is already top 5% on the EWR 777 cap list.

Anyways, point is his attack comes from his zeal in regards to ALPA politics of which he is well versed and about which he is immensely knowledgable. That is certain. Many people, including myself, do not agree with his interpretation of the facts most times, but he for sure is not lacking of said facts.

I hate to admit it though that in this case I agree with the sentiment that Marty is part of the problem NOT the solution and he proved that because he is as close to a "career politician' as you can get in ALPA and has been in office during times when stuff happened that definitely wasn't in everyone's best interest. Not sure this was the right place to post politics for a Council 12 election but whatever . . . it's entertaining.

EDIT: Just learned that Marty is running against Wendy. Now that is a dilemma. C12 sure seems to have a disproportionate number of controversial members. Somebody get the popcorn . . . this is gonna be ugly. I just hope Todd comes to his senses and shuts down this talk of giving on Scope.

RJDio

Are these candidates floating the idea of loosening scope?

Itsajob

I haven’t heard anyone in the union floating around the idea of loosening scope. There are people who like to infer that they are, but their message has been pretty consistent. The language in the next contract may not be a simple cut and paste from this one, but any change will improve our position, not weaken it.

Arctic9

Sunvox is onto something based on a few hints he has put out recently.

There’s more going on than most of us realize, but I don’t know the true details either.

Seems like it’s about to get interesting even after silly season is over.

RJDio

I’ve seen how the MEC and NC seem to be slowly changing the goal and expectations of scope, subtlety. I just wasn’t sure if the candidates in C12 were running on that platform. I’m a C34 guy.

Sniper66

Scope relief means a NO vote and replacing the neg com ..
Plain and simple and the reps , executive MEC and NC should have got it by now

I hope

Thor

I’ve been hearing this on the line too, but haven’t seen anything specifically from the MEC or NC. What are you reading that makes you think that there’s been a sea change with respect to scope?

RJDio

The cartoon videos put out by the MEC about a year ago talking about our collective need to ensure “express” is staffed to keep feeding mainline and the pilot shortage.

The straw man argument of the CRJ 550 threat. Yes the company can add dozens , if not hundreds, of them. But where are they going to get from. Bombardier doesn’t produce them anymore. They sold the crj line to Mitsubishi, which afaik, has no plans to fire up the production line. Most of the crj 700’s that flew as uax are now in delta and American colors (not sitting in a desert). Mesa and go jet have maybe 50 to convert. Yet they presented it as a real threat in one of the negotiations update, which is intellectually dishonest.

EWRflyr

Sorry, but this is a weak argument and easy scapegoat. The NC works FOR the MEC. The MEC gives direction to the NC on what they want done at the negotiating table. The NC brings back to the MEC the company proposals for further direction or the jigsaw piece that will solve the issue based on the MECs prior direction. IF a TA gets out to the pilots it’s with the backing of the majority of the MEC who are satisfied that the NC did the job they were directed to do by the MEC. Looking for someone to blame if there is a “no” vote as you describe? Look no further than the elected reps. I for one will never blame the NC for the product the MEC has final approval over for membership ratification. It’s obvious that there are those around the table who are unwilling or too scared to own this decision which is their responsibility as elected representatives of the pilots. Don’t fall for the trap of not holding your reps accountable and scapegoating the NC as some of them would love to see the pilot group do. Nope. The buck stops with them not the NC.