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Old 12-15-2019 | 05:59 PM
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Copied from the Bloomberg... guess we’ll learn more tomorrow


Boeing is considering either halting or further cutting production of the 737 MAX amid uncertainty over the airplane’s return to service, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

Decision could be disclosed as soon as Monday; the company’s board is meeting in Chicago starting Sunday
Boeing management increasingly sees pausing production as the most viable option; a decision hadn’t been made as of early Sunday, and production changes are not certain
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Old 12-15-2019 | 07:06 PM
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Boeing is considering either halting or further cutting production of the 737 MAX amid uncertainty over the airplane’s return to service, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

Decision could be disclosed as soon as Monday; the company’s board is meeting in Chicago starting Sunday
Boeing management increasingly sees pausing production as the most viable option; a decision hadn’t been made as of early Sunday, and production changes are not certain
Stopping production seems like the worst possible option and I’d guess that’s why they haven’t done it yet. To idle the supply chain, when most of the production of subassemblies is performed by subcontractors, is risky. The ripple will be staggering as the subcontractors attempt to hold on as long as possible, then may have to idle their workforce, etc. To be fair, stopping production will be easy, restarting it will be the trick. I wonder if this would mark the end of the guppy?
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Old 12-15-2019 | 07:17 PM
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Seriously? the end? You better hope not. If it is, the worlds airlines will be short about 6 thousand jets in the next 10 years. Airbus just cant flip a switch and start building over 100 A320s each month next Tuesday.

This is why Airbus said this grounding hasn't been helping them.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/17/airb...ts-no-one.html
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Old 12-15-2019 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
I wonder if this would mark the end of the guppy?
This is in jest, right? The 737 is a cash cow. Not to mention they’ve got 500 of them undelivered and ready to go. This is just another albeit costly, setback. I agree however, it will be certainly crippling to the subcontractors who will have no choice but to halt their supply chain indefinitely. During the holidays no less.

Seems like the next plausible card to fall would be the replacing of the CEO.

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Old 12-15-2019 | 07:30 PM
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The issue is ramp space. They have been turning these out like the sorcerer’s apprentice, and have filled up available ramp space and even overflowed into employee parking lots at the factory.

They are getting gridlocked with produced but undeliverable aircraft.

https://youtu.be/hwejf6Yb3tA
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Old 12-15-2019 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
The issue is ramp space. They have been turning these out like the sorcerer’s apprentice, and have filled up available ramp space and even overflowed into employee parking lots at the factory.

They are getting gridlocked with produced but undeliverable aircraft.

https://youtu.be/hwejf6Yb3tA
Ramp space?

The issue is working capital. Airlines pay 90% of the price upon delivery. No delivery - no cash. But Noeing has to pay their suppliers. That can only go in for so long.
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Old 12-15-2019 | 09:28 PM
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All of this may just be a ploy to pressure the FAA.

Once jobs are under threat people in DC will be making phone calls to the FAA.
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Old 12-15-2019 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
Ramp space?

The issue is working capital. Airlines pay 90% of the price upon delivery. No delivery - no cash. But Noeing has to pay their suppliers. That can only go in for so long.
If you don’t have room to put completed aircraft anyway your inability to afford the parts to assemble more becomes secondary.

And you don’t have to pay your workers if you lay them off. Better yet, the government will pay them, putting political pressure on the FAA to speed things up...
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Old 12-16-2019 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
The issue is ramp space. They have been turning these out like the sorcerer’s apprentice, and have filled up available ramp space and even overflowed into employee parking lots at the factory.

They are getting gridlocked with produced but undeliverable aircraft.

https://youtu.be/hwejf6Yb3tA
How about use as temporary homeless shelters?
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Old 12-16-2019 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
The issue is ramp space. They have been turning these out like the sorcerer’s apprentice, and have filled up available ramp space and even overflowed into employee parking lots at the factory.

They are getting gridlocked with produced but undeliverable aircraft.

https://youtu.be/hwejf6Yb3tA
How about hooking them all together on the power grid and competing with PG&E?
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