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Old 03-15-2020, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Firefly899 View Post
All,

Trying not to get caught up in this whole mess with regards to the what if’s.

I am very low on the list and have to assume that if the company makes cuts I will be part of it.

With that, can anyone lend any credible insight into trade fields etc that I could try to join at an apprentice level that will get my family by?
Check out trucking. That’s my plan. My schedule ends April 30th at my current job. Some guys may laugh but my dad is a truck driver for a well known grocery store in the Southeast pulling in just shy of 100k per year, and he’s home every night. YMMV, some trucking gigs are better than others. It ain’t flying... but at least it’s sort of similar in the way that it’s not a monotonous 9-5 office job. My advice would be to self fund your truck driving school. You can get the training for free if you commit to a company, but you don’t want to end up with a contract, especially if you get called back sooner than you think. Training footprint is about 4-5 weeks. Cost is anywhere between 5-7k depending on location.

EDIT: I should add that he’s the busiest right now in this mess than he’s ever been. That includes holidays.

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Old 03-16-2020, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Firefly899 View Post
All,

Trying not to get caught up in this whole mess with regards to the what if’s.

I am very low on the list and have to assume that if the company makes cuts I will be part of it.

With that, can anyone lend any credible insight into trade fields etc that I could try to join at an apprentice level that will get my family by?
Firefly,

Sorry for the stress that comes with even having to think about getting furloughed; job security needs to stay our number one priority in every contract.

My experience was that the furlough transition was more challenging than the new jobs I ended up at. I am one of those people that enjoys running; I find it interesting that running in the rain is hard for me to start out, but actually much easier once I am doing it. Furlough was the same.

IF our company does furlough, the employment opportunities will likely vary depending on the economic circumstances. The COVID-19 responses will likely impact opportunities in many other careers as well in both the positive and negative directions.

That being said, I would try getting a group together to share potential career ideas and start building networks. Also knowing people who are willing to help is often just as important as having employment skills. Network with coworkers, family and friends.

It might be worth starting a new thread asking every furloughed pilot to share what they did, and if they have any helpful advice that they consider important.

Here are just a few ideas that come to mind:

Depending on which state you live in teaching might be worth looking at. The schools often have a hard time getting substitute teachers to fill in, and filling in at a district you might be interested in is a great way to network into a solid teaching job. A teaching credential is often not required for subs or interim teachers. The pay is not so impressive, and the job not glamorous, but it can be personally rewarding and provide solid benefits and family friendly schedule.

If you are interested in law enforcement, many of our pilots found employment on police forces or as a deputy. Correctional Officers pay well in my state and have excellent benefits.

I know some pilots worked in Pharmaceutical sales and some that helped operate and run assisted living care homes.

Healthcare will likely boom, and even a short phlebotomists course might land a entry level job in a hospital lab with opportunities to move up.

Some furloughed pilots took jobs in other modes of transportation including trains and trucking.

A hobby or interest might provide a potential venue to find employment in retail or services in that area.

If furloughs do come our way, the best thing is to take care of your family first, stay positive, and network. The help I received from my fellow furloughed pilots made a HUGE difference in everything from unemployment benefits to getting hired at a company that one worked for. Network.

None of us are immune to the potential of hitting the reset button, and it is always a good idea to think about what you might do just in case it does happen.

I hope we all prepare for this possibility, but find that we did not need to,

SP
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SONORA PASS View Post
Firefly,

Sorry for the stress that comes with even having to think about getting furloughed; job security needs to stay our number one priority in every contract.

My experience was that the furlough transition was more challenging than the new jobs I ended up at. I am one of those people that enjoys running; I find it interesting that running in the rain is hard for me to start out, but actually much easier once I am doing it. Furlough was the same.

IF our company does furlough, the employment opportunities will likely vary depending on the economic circumstances. The COVID-19 responses will likely impact opportunities in many other careers as well in both the positive and negative directions.

That being said, I would try getting a group together to share potential career ideas and start building networks. Also knowing people who are willing to help is often just as important as having employment skills. Network with coworkers, family and friends.

It might be worth starting a new thread asking every furloughed pilot to share what they did, and if they have any helpful advice that they consider important.

Here are just a few ideas that come to mind:

Depending on which state you live in teaching might be worth looking at. The schools often have a hard time getting substitute teachers to fill in, and filling in at a district you might be interested in is a great way to network into a solid teaching job. A teaching credential is often not required for subs or interim teachers. The pay is not so impressive, and the job not glamorous, but it can be personally rewarding and provide solid benefits and family friendly schedule.

If you are interested in law enforcement, many of our pilots found employment on police forces or as a deputy. Correctional Officers pay well in my state and have excellent benefits.

I know some pilots worked in Pharmaceutical sales and some that helped operate and run assisted living care homes.

Healthcare will likely boom, and even a short phlebotomists course might land a entry level job in a hospital lab with opportunities to move up.

Some furloughed pilots took jobs in other modes of transportation including trains and trucking.

A hobby or interest might provide a potential venue to find employment in retail or services in that area.

If furloughs do come our way, the best thing is to take care of your family first, stay positive, and network. The help I received from my fellow furloughed pilots made a HUGE difference in everything from unemployment benefits to getting hired at a company that one worked for. Network.

None of us are immune to the potential of hitting the reset button, and it is always a good idea to think about what you might do just in case it does happen.

I hope we all prepare for this possibility, but find that we did not need to,

SP
Very well said!

I found that networking was the key to finding other employment during my 10 years (combined) of furlough. It also helped just being able to bounce ideas off one another with people in the same situation. Stay positive as much as feasible because it really does help.
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Old 03-17-2020, 05:53 AM
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I hate to tell you buddy if you know absolutely nothing but flying your screwed! Shame on you! I worked in the trades since I was 12. I'll survive with or without this job theres no time to learn something and save your situation! Plus no schools are open...and I never hired someone from a trade school and I've hired allot of people. That industry is learn on the job and you start out at min wage and work your way up, trade school or not!
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I hate to tell you buddy if you know absolutely nothing but flying your screwed! Shame on you! I worked in the trades since I was 12. I'll survive with or without this job theres no time to learn something and save your situation! Plus no schools are open...and I never hired someone from a trade school and I've hired allot of people. That industry is learn on the job and you start out at min wage and work your way up, trade school or not!
Don’t be so quick on the trigger to blame. Maybe shame on his parents, who knows? He might be part of the “participation trophy” generation .

Anybody can do manual labor. Start simple with a lawnmower and trimmer. A friend dropped out to college to do that. He is worth many times what I am now, and has a great business work schedule.
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Old 03-17-2020, 08:14 AM
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Well i have committed to selling one of every part i have two of.
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Old 03-17-2020, 09:10 AM
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Well i have committed to selling one of every part i have two of.
I’d keep both eyes personally, otherwise a great idea.
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Old 03-17-2020, 11:27 AM
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Well i have committed to selling one of every part i have two of.
I might give up one kidney, but I kind of want to keep both arms and both legs. Call me selfish and stupid. Since childhood I have grown rather attached to them.

Please clean up the coffee (or beer, as appropriate) that you just blew out your nose.
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Old 03-17-2020, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT View Post
I hate to tell you buddy if you know absolutely nothing but flying your screwed! Shame on you! I worked in the trades since I was 12. I'll survive with or without this job theres no time to learn something and save your situation! Plus no schools are open...and I never hired someone from a trade school and I've hired allot of people. That industry is learn on the job and you start out at min wage and work your way up, trade school or not!
All the Riddle rats are going to learn the hard way...a degree in Aeronautical Science?? Pfffffft
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Old 03-17-2020, 12:39 PM
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Piloting is a trade. Just like electricians, plumbers, contractors etc.
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