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Grumpyaviator 04-02-2020 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by SeeYa (Post 3021151)
Scott Kirby said it today at United’s town hall


If history is any indication, Kirby is trustworthy.

Vernon Demerest 04-02-2020 07:33 PM

I wouldn’t read into this off the cuff comment by Kirby as a definite end of the line for ExpressJet. Heck, UAL owns a portion of ExpressJet. I hope they get to keep (and expand) their ERJ 175 opportunities vice transferring them to SkyWest. Heck, maybe take airframes from some of our non owned contractors like SkyWest or Republic and fly them pseudo “in-house” with enhanced flow-through/seniority opportunity at Mainline UAL while also providing furlough protection for our most susceptible first officers whom might need a place to call home for a year or so beginning this Fall.

JayD 04-02-2020 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 3021671)
I wouldn’t read into this off the cuff comment by Kirby as a definite end of the line for ExpressJet. Heck, UAL owns a portion of ExpressJet. I hope they get to keep (and expand) their ERJ 175 opportunities vice transferring them to SkyWest. Heck, maybe take airframes from some of our non owned contractors like SkyWest or Republic and fly them pseudo “in-house” with enhanced flow-through/seniority opportunity at Mainline UAL while also providing furlough protection for our most susceptible first officers whom might need a place to call home for a year or so beginning this Fall.

Don’t forget that United owns 20ish percent of Republic as well.

JayD 04-02-2020 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3021465)
People in Hays can drive 2.5 hours to ICT. People in CLL drive to IAH........ Hays is so small that it could potentially be dropped. My relatives live in a small town about twice the size of Hays and they drive 2 hours to a bigger city if they need to fly.

What you’re not factoring in is that HYS serves the whole northwestern part of KS so many on the flight already drove 1.5-2 hrs from an even smaller town to get to HYS to fly. Their only other UA option is to drive 3-4 hours to DEN, or they can drive the 1-2 hours to GCK and fly on AA. Before HYS they would go to GCK and the business went to AA.

BRJPilot 04-02-2020 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 3021671)
Heck, maybe take airframes from some of our non owned contractors like SkyWest or Republic and fly them pseudo “in-house”...

The transfers of 175s from XJT have already started and are in fact, speeding up. Oh, and most of the 175s at SkyWest and Republic are owned by those companies if I’m not mistaken.

whaler 04-02-2020 09:01 PM

"Flexibility" is the word he said a lot. Gonna be interesting to see how this turns out in many aspects.

Sniper66 04-02-2020 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by BRJPilot (Post 3021715)
The transfers of 175s from XJT have already started and are in fact, speeding up. Oh, and most of the 175s at SkyWest and Republic are owned by those companies if I’m not mistaken.



united owns 105 of the 175s flying as express and another 25 on the tarmac in Brazil
Mesa Republic SKW

alll need to come in house period

TFAYD 04-02-2020 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3021735)
united owns 105 of the 175s flying as express and another 25 on the tarmac in Brazil
Mesa Republic SKW

alll need to come in house period

for yes - just watch SKYW though. They are really an aircraft leasing company with an associated airline operation.

they have been killing it in times like these providing direct liquidity (loans) to UA and financing aircraft so that UA doesn’t have to and conserve cash.

airlinepilot50 04-03-2020 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3021754)
for yes - just watch SKYW though. They are really an aircraft leasing company with an associated airline operation.

they have been killing it in times like these providing direct liquidity (loans) to UA and financing aircraft so that UA doesn’t have to and conserve cash.

SkyWest might very well turn into the next major airline to compete against United.

CousinEddie 04-03-2020 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by airlinepilot50 (Post 3022080)
SkyWest might very well turn into the next major airline to compete against United.

Like BubbleJet


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