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cadetdrivr 04-03-2020 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by airlinepilot50 (Post 3022080)
SkyWest might very well turn into the next major airline to compete against United.

You should probably apply. Sounds like a great opportunity.

Personally, I'd love to see Skywest withdraw from United Express to pursue this.

Sniper66 04-03-2020 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by airlinepilot50 (Post 3022080)
SkyWest might very well turn into the next major airline to compete against United.


they consider themselves major anyway.
flew with ex Skywest FOs that told me so

Not

koolaid works for some

airlinepilot50 04-03-2020 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 3022119)
You should probably apply. Sounds like a great opportunity.

Personally, I'd love to see Skywest withdraw from United Express to pursue this.

As much as I dislike Skywest, anything is possible in this industry. Now is a great time to take advantage of the opportunities that present themselves. I'm willing to wager Skywest pilots would be jumping up and down for the opportunity to fly larger mainline aircraft for much less pay.

Itsajob 04-03-2020 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by airlinepilot50 (Post 3022177)
As much as I dislike Skywest, anything is possible in this industry. Now is a great time to take advantage of the opportunities that present themselves. I'm willing to wager Skywest pilots would be jumping up and down for the opportunity to fly larger mainline aircraft for much less pay.

This is coming from someone who less than a week ago said that 50 seat flying was stronger than ever on a Republic thread.

“Expressjet is still hiring and will be for the foreseeable future. 50 seat flying is stronger than ever.”

blockplus 04-03-2020 11:11 AM

There is alway a place for a small 50 seat presence. I am presuming the lost 50 seaters would be Air Wis and Skywest. That is 170 frames. ExpressJet LR could go and keep the XR. That’s another 68. That would leave about 140 out of the current ~380. Presuming the 550 isn’t the first to be chopped.

domino 04-03-2020 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Happyflyer (Post 3021246)
The consensus is American domestic will return much faster than high density long haul. I hoping Christmas/Thanksgiving travel will spark it.

United will have to get with the times and rely less on their PamAm routes. If they bring on a SNB the 550 can become a 700 again. They may realize they're over exposed in one segment of demand.

After this mess H1N1, or SARS or any other further Chinese sanitary virus pops off they're gonna be quick to shut it down. There Asian reliance will forever have to proceed with caution for steady revenue.

everything I’m seeing is that travel will be severly stunted until a vaccine is found. No one will want to fly in the fall as the virus returns and risk infecting grandma. Pretty sure we won’t see a “robust” recovery until later next year.

airlinepilot50 04-03-2020 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3022216)
This is coming from someone who less than a week ago said that 50 seat flying was stronger than ever on a Republic thread.

“Expressjet is still hiring and will be for the foreseeable future. 50 seat flying is stronger than ever.”

50 seat jets do pretty darn well in a crushing economy like this. At some point soon, the CRJ550 will be converted to 76 seats and the CRJ 200 will be parked. Many opportunities will arise from the majors leaving markets and significantly reducing their capacity.

Itsajob 04-03-2020 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by blockplus (Post 3022290)
There is alway a place for a small 50 seat presence. I am presuming the lost 50 seaters would be Air Wis and Skywest. That is 170 frames. ExpressJet LR could go and keep the XR. That’s another 68. That would leave about 140 out of the current ~380. Presuming the 550 isn’t the first to be chopped.

Only Kirby and a few others really know, but when he publicly says that the 50 seaters will mostly be gone, I’d guess that he means most of them. In the few articles that I have found talking about this, they all seem to be glad to see them go. One article even called it “a positive note”. I understand that people will be out of work if this does happen, but this was going to eventually play out. Companies like Air Wisconsin and Expressjet are flying an old aircraft with no available replacement that the customers don’t like. The 550 is also a 50 seat aircraft, but it is roomy and has dual class. My guess is that they are the last to go.

JoePatroni 04-03-2020 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by airlinepilot50 (Post 3022323)
50 seat jets do pretty darn well in a crushing economy like this. At some point soon, the CRJ550 will be converted to 76 seats and the CRJ 200 will be parked. Many opportunities will arise from the majors leaving markets and significantly reducing their capacity.

United is not going to subsidize a fee for departure arrangement with no passengers.

airlinepilot50 04-03-2020 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 3022332)
United is not going to subsidize a fee for departure arrangement with no passengers.


If they accept the bailout loan terms, they have to provide service to all the cities according to the govt rules. It's much cheaper running RJs than SNB or WBs.


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