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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
(Post 3044455)
Also, you can play the bump game. Bump into a category where everyone expects more bumps due too many pilots bumping into the fleet. Then get bumped again....and again....all the while, E.G. if you are a 757 pilot with no plane to fly, you get paid to stay at home. When the 727's were parked, we had pilots being bumped and training cancelled for over a year. Paid to stay at home....
Agreed, not very good for the company, but the contract is what it is. Enforce your contract, insist on it! |
Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
If your name is on the displacement list...the only way you stay a EWR 737 Captain is if a senior 737 Ewr Captain takes a voluntary displacement. For each voluntary displacement, they just cancel the displacement of the most senior person on the displacement list.
Originally Posted by SANORA PASS
There is a volunteer box on the CCS displacement bid screen. If you do not check that box, your bid will be bypassed in sequence if senior bidders takes them.
So you would enter EWR 787 F/O (and any other choices in order), then leave the volunteer box unchecked. At least that is the way it worked in prior displacements. |
Ok.. so I’m reading 8-e. As long as the company has the same number of captain set as the min system wide across all fleets and stay out of reduction mode, they could go all the way through a tertiary displacement to bump people down to 737 or airbus. 20 days for the first, 10 days for the second and 7 for the tertiary. Getting very close to desired levels before going into reduction mode. Closer to the middle of summer. And by that time there will be fewer places to go as the stove piping of the seniority list will be closer to reality. And they can start training immediately after the tertiary bid. As the downgrades are short courses. And they can bump nb captains to similar seniority levels on both Boeing and Airbus
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Originally Posted by blockplus
(Post 3044631)
Ok.. so I’m reading 8-e. As long as the company has the same number of captain set as the min system wide across all fleets and stay out of reduction mode, they could go all the way through a tertiary displacement to bump people down to 737 or airbus. 20 days for the first, 10 days for the second and 7 for the tertiary. Getting very close to desired levels before going into reduction mode. Closer to the middle of summer. And by that time there will be fewer places to go as the stove piping of the seniority list will be closer to reality. And they can start training immediately after the tertiary bid. As the downgrades are short courses. And they can bump nb captains to similar seniority levels on both Boeing and Airbus
Everyone just take a deep breath and wait for the forthcoming announcement. The company just recently pushed the May 1st town hall to the 5th for a reason. While I’m not privy to the discussions between the union and the company I can tell you they are going on. Rather than try to sharpshoot the answer wait for it. It might surprise you. And, what individual pilots elect to do will surprise them. Then round two comes..... Lee |
Originally Posted by AxlF16
(Post 3044571)
A note of caution when playing the 'bump game'... Be prepared to train and be activated in any category you displace into. You won't have a freeze, but you may not have many options for a while.
Lee, also, excellent point. |
Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG
(Post 3044668)
Ill just say the company’s master plan we will see in the near future seldom goes as they plan. That includes parking two fleets post 9/11 or parking the 400 in more recent times.
Everyone just take a deep breath and wait for the forthcoming announcement. The company just recently pushed the May 1st town hall to the 5th for a reason. While I’m not privy to the discussions between the union and the company I can tell you they are going on. Rather than try to sharpshoot the answer wait for it. It might surprise you. And, what individual pilots elect to do will surprise them. Then round two comes..... Lee Great stuff, Lee! |
Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG
(Post 3044668)
Ill just say the company’s master plan we will see in the near future seldom goes as they plan. That includes parking two fleets post 9/11 or parking the 400 in more recent times.
Everyone just take a deep breath and wait for the forthcoming announcement. The company just recently pushed the May 1st town hall to the 5th for a reason. While I’m not privy to the discussions between the union and the company I can tell you they are going on. Rather than try to sharpshoot the answer wait for it. It might surprise you. And, what individual pilots elect to do will surprise them. Then round two comes..... Lee |
Originally Posted by Fresh
(Post 3044947)
FT still shows May 1st. When did they push it to the 5th?
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Originally Posted by Charlie Buster
(Post 3044960)
It seems there are now two... CCS message today stating Flight Ops TH has been moved to 5 May. Flying Together website says company TH with Oscar and Scott on 1 May.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Buster
(Post 3044960)
It seems there are now two... CCS message today stating Flight Ops TH has been moved to 5 May. Flying Together website says company TH with Oscar and Scott on 1 May.
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