Likely one third of co-pilots will be going non-qual by the end of next month, mainly the bunkies. In three months we'll all be lost qual. It's going to be really hard to get pilots qualified around July 1. I really wonder what the plan is......I guess the FAA could waive currency requirements.....?

the plan is to park them all for good. I wouldn’t be surprised if that will be announce at the next town hall.

I wonder if Fedex/Amazon offered cash for these planes. Do we own or lease them?

we have nothing but LDRQs and CQs scheduled for the vast majority of the sim periods over the next 2 months.....Quals will not be a huge issue. I have seen days in the 787 where every single session for a full day is Landings.

now if they start running displacements then the sim slots will start getting filled by Qual courses.....then we will have currency issues.

Mostly owned, with some leased.

(See the United 2019 Annual Report for the breakdown, page 23.)

Currency issues only apply if the fleet comes back. After 9/11 airlines parked the older planes like the 727 and the DC-10 very fast and furloughed at the same time. It could be that training crews during a time when pilots aren’t needed is a possibility that could allow them to retire a fleet with one chop. With revenue expected to be near zero for April-June, their 70% revenue expectations this fall could turn out to be optimistic. If Kirby meant what he said, the 756 could be retired fairly soon. It could just as easily be put into storage for a month or two to wait and see.

I’m currently on 737 at 16% and would be 44% on 756. For me and many others, moving from 737 to 756 would be a significant pay cut. I have (had) access to premium trips and always lots of open time. A 21 hr 3 day on the guppy pays more than the abundant 15-16 hr 3 days on the 756.


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What really stands out to me on that page are the number of E-175's owned by United. 71 owned and another 20 for delivery this year. If United is going to furlough a single pilot then those airplanes need to come home. We should be demanding that United pilots (at a minimum) fly United owned aircraft.

As for retiring the 756. IF Boeing can deliver the Max, the Max800 could handle all the close-in, small market Europe flying. The cargo would take a hit, but we could still serve the cities until the 321XLR comes along. Better plan would be to keep just enough 757/767 to cover the larger cargo markets and then just fill in the gaps with the MAX. In either even, assuming we take delivery of the MAX and the 787's this year (and next), something has to leave. We are not in a growth environment.

Take a look at the seniority of EWR/IAH/DCA/ORD. Those bases are senior on the 756 because of the International flying. The question is do those pilots want to take a pay cut to fly an uncomfortable aircraft doing domestic 4 day trips.

let me know how your pay compares after all the PPU trips you are going to be getting of the next year. Compare yourself to a 764/763 line not a 752 line. If you compare yourself to a SFO/LAX/DEN line then I agree with you as do all United pilots and that is why the 756 in those bases are so junior.

we have taken delivery of 2 maybe 3 787s this month. All the 787 are coming on schedule. The sell lease back of 787s and MAXs were for future deliveries not aircraft we currently have on property so we will atleast take all of those.