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MasterOfPuppets 04-26-2020 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 3042065)
Oh, what will the EWR Mafia do now????

continue to collect to monthly fee they charge to be a member......

JimLaheyTPS 04-26-2020 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 3042065)
Oh, what will the EWR Mafia do now????

LOL!! Those guys have got to be going through total withdrawals right now due to no chance of gaming the system anymore! Party is OVER!

horrido27 04-26-2020 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 3041570)
The 75 is a great airplane that can't be easily replaced. The number of opportunities for a capable airplane in western europe, caribbean, and south america are too big of a competitive advantage for us to mothball the whole fleet. The a321xlr has potential but with a hefty price tag and 5 yr delivery. These are paid off, known quantity planes with crews in place that know how to fly them. The 767 is going to be workhorse for another decade with few maintenance surprises. We know the 756 fleet and they are cheap lift if oil stays low. I don't see us parking anything but the hangar queens.

I like seeing common sense posts from authors who we don't usually see a lot from!
More validity from you (Aquaticus/July 2014) that from someone who just created an account in Apr...
Just saying.



Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3041971)
they made it right. Communication was poor but they did the right thing excuse me for not being ****ed.

the company could have kept 1 single 757 flying between EWR and ORD per day as a turn and wouldn’t of had to do jack. so in a way this is better than we could have gotten. If the company was thinking of a way to screw us out of pay they didn’t think very hard.

Exactly!
SK is a gambler.. it's a known fact (base on an interview he gave last year. About going to Vegas, being thrown out of a casino for card counting [supposedly].. lol).
They had a plan for May based on the world starting to reopen.
They had a plan to try and lower labor costs by ESLR/No Fly Line.
Things changed.
They decided to change the utilization of the fleets.

So they (temporarily) are parking the 756 fleet for a month.
They ACTUALLY did the right thing by fixing the pay for everyone affected by the change in direction.
They could have just as easily flown a handful of routes on the fleet and kept thousands of pilots on the hook.

For once, the 756 fleet is actually getting a good deal.

Think about that for a second. Take off the hatred glasses and realize the sun continues to shine and every day we get one day closer to a cure, a vaccine, re-opening of the World/Economy and some sense of new normal.

Always
Motch

(Yupe.. I'm back)

Nucflash 04-26-2020 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 3041968)
I wonder what happens to Delta if Virgin Atlantic goes tango uniform??? They have a 49% ownership in them.

The alliance situation is a key point to consider. Although one can’t say our Star partners are by any means healthy (even LH is badly, badly mired down) we are MUCH less reliant on Star than Delta is on Skyteam. UAL could be much better positioned to provide reliable international service as things recover simply because we keep so much flying in house.

Mudge 04-26-2020 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by The stillest (Post 3041874)
I heard the coronavirus can last for up to 24 months inside a parked 757.

The story was in a non-peer reviewed journal published by the Republic of Congo department of scientific amalgamation in affiliation with several Chinese scientists on loan from Wuhan jail.

Their data showed that, if a certain 17 conditions were met for a certain unspecified time period, then this could happen

better trust these scientists, stay home, and shut everything down

Made my day. Humor is a way better tool than fear and panic.

copy 04-26-2020 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 3042063)
https://consumerist.com/consumermedi.../05/spirit.pdf

This is a copy of the court case regarding the Spirit Pilots and their lack of picking up open time. They lost and the Court effectively made the Spirit Pilots pick up open time.

Just to clarify, the court said they had to pick up opentime, but they cannot actually force individuals to pick up opentime. More of a symbolic gesture than anything. That said I wouldn’t advocate job actions or anything else nefarious on an only somewhat anonymous forum.

Freight Dawg 04-26-2020 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3041971)
they made it right. Communication was poor but they did the right thing excuse me for not being ****ed.

the company could have kept 1 single 757 flying between EWR and ORD per day as a turn and wouldn’t of had to do jack. so in a way this is better than we could have gotten. If the company was thinking of a way to screw us out of pay they didn’t think very hard.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not ****ed. I've been cautiously optimistic about Munoz. I had hopes he might be different. When the chips are down is when you find out a person's true colors. It's easy to be sunshine and roses when times are good. Between the lack of a contract for the past 1+ years and the way they handled the '67 groundings, he has shown me he is no different than any other airline CEO I've worked under. It's crystal clear to me what type of management we are working with. Not ****ed at all, I just know the game.

I don't come to this forum much, but I thought you were a pre-9/11 L-UAL hire. It surprises me that you don't understand the games that the company is playing.

Anywho, it's too nice of a day to look at screens any longer. Enjoy your afternoon. Cheers.

Nucflash 04-26-2020 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by copy (Post 3042123)
Just to clarify, the court said they had to pick up opentime, but they cannot actually force individuals to pick up opentime. More of a symbolic gesture than anything. That said I wouldn’t advocate job actions or anything else nefarious on an only somewhat anonymous forum.

You pick your battles and at this moment the last thing the company will want to is go nuclear over this by taking ALPA to court. Plus, there will be plenty of SC and FSB to cover the last minute OT scraps as we move forward. Even Carlsen admitted that a lot of the PP the crew desk has been generating was due to scheduler error.

MasterOfPuppets 04-26-2020 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Freight Dawg (Post 3042126)
Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not ****ed. I've been cautiously optimistic about Munoz. I had hopes he might be different. When the chips are down is when you find out a person's true colors. It's easy to be sunshine and roses when times are good. Between the lack of a contract for the past 1+ years and the way they handled the '67 groundings, he has shown me he is no different than any other airline CEO I've worked under. It's crystal clear to me what type of management we are working with. Not ****ed at all, I just know the game.

I don't come to this forum much, but I thought you were a pre-9/11 L-UAL hire. It surprises me that you don't understand the games that the company is playing.

Anywho, it's too nice of a day to look at screens any longer. Enjoy your afternoon. Cheers.


no I’m not but had family at United over 9/11. I’m aware of the games but I don’t see one chess move and blow a gasket.

JimLaheyTPS 04-26-2020 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 3042117)
For once, the 756 fleet is actually getting a good deal.

Just curious about this comment. What would
you say has been a bad deal for our fleet besides 767-300 pay and meh rest facilities?

For the most part I see this fleet as a gem. Very easy, some might say boring domestic trips, unrivaled European destinations out of EWR and incredibly satisfying airplane to fly as well.

I truly hope this is not the end of the road for this fleet. I have truly enjoyed my time on her and all the places she’s taken me.


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