The problem becomes retaining LCPs at the regional level. Unless there is some incentive to get them to stay they are all going to quickly bail at the first offer they get. Delays in IOE have been a common complaint at the aviate partners. In a time of getting job offers from multiple majors, the promise of a job isn't that good of a retention tool.

What’s the best guess for how many people are in the aviate pipeline?

Is the Aviate program viable for someone without flight experience. Their website offers a private pilot license for no experience candidates, then further ratings in the Aviate program. Is this possible?

This situation is what the Aviate program is designed for. A person goes to an approved flight school, instructs there, goes to an approved partner, and goes to UAL once all requirements are met. The sooner a person gets their name on the list, the better.


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That is actually one of the more beneficial applicants of the aviate program. It really helps those with no experience or just a ppl. It gets less beneficial once you have your ratings or 121 experience. I think the program is banking on a never ending supply of instructor pilots at the regionals that isn't going to be there. It isn't a perfect program right now but the effort is being put in to expand the program and streamline the process. Once your foot is in the door you do have a leg up.

Aviate/Propel as an ASU/ATP student
 

Hello everyone and thank you for your future responses.

I am currently a freshman at Arizona State University and in their Professional Flight degree major. I have my PPL and am halfway through my training for my instrument rating. My school contracts their flight training out through ATP Flight School at the Mesa-Gateway location (KIWA or AZA). As I am still technically an ATP student (even though not the fast track program as my training is Part 141 and I'll get a 1000hr R-ATP) I was wondering about Aviate.

My biggest questions involve Aviate. Do you think it is good to apply to the program so I get a CJO? or is it more of the "It looks good on paper but in reality, it is really not good." I also will qualify for Delta's Propel college path program, once I am a Junior, as well and the same questions arise.

From my position does anyone also know what the acceptance rate is for getting into each program?


Thank you, everyone, for your future responses and I am very excited to hopefully be an airlines pilot for my career as I have wanted to be a pilot since I was three years old haha

Realistically… nobody knows

the industry is in a huge hiring wave and a lot of things are changing

study hard, fly all you can, keep your options open

Hello everyone I hope your day is going well. I am currently looking into applying for United Aviate. To my understanding, it is a flow-through program to United where they claim it is the “Fastest way to the right seat.” Which is defiantly intriguing. I am not putting all my eggs in this basket but United/Delta are my dream airlines to work for. I am currently a student at ATP through their program with Arizona State University at Mesa-Gateway (KIWA). I am about halfway through my instrument rating so I qualify for the program.

The application is set through Airline Apps and I have heard rumors that it is highly recommended to get an app review by check and set before you apply to the airlines. I am wondering if this is still the case as an app review from them costs $399. As I am also still a college student I don’t have a lot of money to spend but if it is 100% worth it, I will do it since United is one of my dream airlines. Any recommendations?

Cage Marshall

Just 1 data point here, but as a regional LCA with a college degree, my phone didn’t start ringing until shortly after I used Checked and Set. Best money I’ve ever spent, along with Emerald Coast for interview prep. I know it seems like a lot of money at this stage in your life, but think of it as pocket change towards your multi-million dollar career.