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Old 07-12-2020 | 09:49 AM
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Asked by one of the pilots I mentor who is on the block; “what capacity is available for recall? 20 per class? 2 classes per month? “ Can they go faster or will it take almost 2 years to get everyone back?
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Old 07-12-2020 | 09:57 AM
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Asked by one of the pilots I mentor who is on the block; “what capacity is available for recall? 20 per class? 2 classes per month? “ Can they go faster or will it take almost 2 years to get everyone back?
TK can do 100 a month at full throttle. 737 will have 13 sims when the MAX is certified.
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Old 07-12-2020 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
TK can do 100 a month at full throttle. 737 will have 13 sims when the MAX is certified.
Thanks MoP. That’s still a long time out for the bottom guys.
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Old 07-12-2020 | 10:12 AM
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Thanks MoP. That’s still a long time out for the bottom guys.
keep in mind that training back up will be just as quick as they trained down. They have the ability to RQ3 all the way to 60 months. If things turn around for next summer there may be some furlough pilots that can RQ2 in a week. What I don’t know is what triggers INDOC.
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Old 07-12-2020 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
keep in mind that training back up will be just as quick as they trained down. They have the ability to RQ3 all the way to 60 months. If things turn around for next summer there may be some furlough pilots that can RQ2 in a week. What I don’t know is what triggers INDOC.
Copy all. Thanks! Good point about Indoc. I’ll try and find an answer and relay.
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Old 07-12-2020 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
keep in mind that training back up will be just as quick as they trained down. They have the ability to RQ3 all the way to 60 months. If things turn around for next summer there may be some furlough pilots that can RQ2 in a week. What I don’t know is what triggers INDOC.
FWIW, INDOC can also be shortened but I don't recall the specifics.
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Old 07-12-2020 | 12:13 PM
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Recalled pilots will get REDOC (short version) not INDOC unless they're out on Mil or Med for a very long time based on current AQP guidance. Also, pilots will return at a slower rate than they are furloughed. Some will take Mil commitments, others will go back to school and all other possibilities. Economic and travel recovery will dictate how quickly recalls occur. At his point I don't think anyone can guess at how long that will be accurately, but most industry analysts are currently guessing no later than 2023 FWIW.

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Old 07-12-2020 | 04:26 PM
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I've heard capacity exists to bring back 200/mo at least until people are out a really long time and require longer courses, redoc, etc.
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Old 07-13-2020 | 03:16 AM
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Given that we were able to process new hires around 120 a month, and recalls will require less training than that (Redoc vs Indoc, RQ3 etc.), I would speculate that the pace of economic recovery would be more limiting than TK throughput.

absent a mass produced vaccine, and/or eventual herd immunity with no chance of mutation/New strains, The economic fallout and lack of global consensus will prevent a V-shaped curve.

One (totally unqualified) person‘s opinion
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Old 07-13-2020 | 09:54 AM
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More importantly, can I get my ID picture retaken when I get recalled? Not a fan of my current one.
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