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mattc 09-12-2020 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by tkhayes90 (Post 3127070)
Pre-COVID, I was 20-30 above the line. Now, I can only hold NB FO, but haven’t gone to training.​​..sitting about 60 below the line. Some far Jr to me, who trained, will be NB FO lineholders at CA pay. Sucks to be me.

As someone in this boat (2000 UAL hire, twice furloughed, upgraded to guppy CA in Mar of 2019)....I am one of these supposed "carve out" people that could be sitting A320 FO, above the G line...etc...etc.... And I, as someone who understands our history and a 1985 strike over a B scale (look it up if you don't know what that is)...am voting a RESOUNDING NO on this (if the details are as rumored)...WHY would I vote NO when it could mean I'd get NB CA pay for flying NB FO???

Because this POS divides the pilot group! Not just a B scale, but a C scale too no less! How our MEC could even consider putting this to the group for MR is beyond me. I have emailed my LEC reps to tell them of my opinion on this BEFORE they vote to send this for MR. Have you?

F15andMD11 09-12-2020 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by mattc (Post 3127537)
...Because this POS divides the pilot group! Not just a B scale, but a C scale too no less! How our MEC could even consider putting this to the group for MR is beyond me. I have emailed my LEC reps to tell them of my opinion on this BEFORE they vote to send this for MR. Have you?

Exactly, well said!! I'm against everything that divides us, especially these days!

SONORA PASS 09-12-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFNjetdriver (Post 3127401)
What happened to "my union speaks for me?" Asking for a friend.

Big Jet,

I heard from "a friend" there was some confusion over the intended application of that blanket statement that came up a while back when ALPA ran a public relations campaign in print...

Something about unverified information, false claims, and choosing someone who "personifies the pilot professionalism and living by the ALPA code of ethics" rings a bell. ;)

Since then, I believe it was decided it would be a good idea to subject that "speaking" to membership oversight.

SP

Huell 09-12-2020 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by SONORA PASS (Post 3127668)
Big Jet,

I heard from "a friend" there was some confusion over the intended application of that blanket statement that came up a while back when ALPA ran a public relations campaign in print...

Something about unverified information, false claims, and choosing someone who "personifies the pilot professionalism and living by the ALPA code of ethics" rings a bell. ;)


Since then, I believe it was decided it would be a good idea to subject that "speaking" to membership oversight.

SP

My hero and Core5 roll model... young Timmy Martins. :o

HercDrvr88 09-12-2020 04:34 PM

Been through 2 furloughs. When did the union or the company do anyone a favor, rhetorical question, the answer is never. I hope the offer will be something truly “offered” by the company and doesn’t pit one pilot against another, which by the way is what management always likes to do. See you on Wednesday....

TransWorld 09-12-2020 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by BigFNjetdriver (Post 3127401)
What happened to "my union speaks for me?"

Said that to my wife when she grilled me about where I had been, when I came in late one night, drunk, with my clothes a mess.

She did not buy that. The dog was not happy with me sharing his house for the night, either.

TillerTemptress 09-12-2020 05:18 PM

Cancelling most of the displacements is huge... LTD increase is nice, first class DH nice, and hoping the reserve improvements are good. Achieving gains at a time like this should be celebrated. Finding a way to keep everybody on property is a monumental task in this kind of revenue environment.

JoePatroni 09-12-2020 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3127718)
Said that to my wife when she grilled me about where I had been, when I came in late one night, drunk, with my clothes a mess.

She did not buy that. The dog was not happy with me sharing his house for the night, either.

Next time tell her you had a few beers while you washed the Batmobile after a long day.

TransWorld 09-12-2020 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 3127724)
Next time tell her you had a few beers while you washed the Batmobile after a long day.

Told her I was washing NCC-1701, the Enterprise. Nothing but a stern look from her. She said that was illogical. She does not even look like Leonard Nimoy.

130shadow 09-12-2020 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by TillerTemptress (Post 3127720)
Cancelling most of the displacements is huge... LTD increase is nice, first class DH nice, and hoping the reserve improvements are good. Achieving gains at a time like this should be celebrated. Finding a way to keep everybody on property is a monumental task in this kind of revenue environment.


Yes it would be great to keep everyone on the property with limited amount of pax flying, but who do you think is paying for that?


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