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TillerTemptress 09-12-2020 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by 130shadow (Post 3127729)
Yes it would be great to keep everyone on the property with limited amount of pax flying, but who do you think is paying for that?

So you're paying for it? How? if you give up some guarantee are you gonna be expected to work on those days? No... you'll have those days off. So United is paying for it. You're giving up some right to go make that money, sure, so that it can be spent elsewhere. In the case of a cancelled displacement, it may even be neutral or in your favor. Working less isn't the worst thing in the world. You can do some retirement type things.. now. While you're young and healthy.

130shadow 09-12-2020 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by TillerTemptress (Post 3127732)
So you're paying for it? How? if you give up some guarantee are you gonna be expected to work on those days? No... you'll have those days off. So United is paying for it. You're giving up some right to go make that money, sure, so that it can be spent elsewhere. In the case of a cancelled displacement, it may even be neutral or in your favor. Working less isn't the worst thing in the world. You can do some retirement type things.. now. While you're young and healthy.


My contract says my MPG is 73 hours. Any reduction in MPG is exactly how I/you/we are paying for it. Can you not see that? Don’t lecture me about days off, my contract is for 73 hours!!!

JoePatroni 09-12-2020 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by 130shadow (Post 3127736)
My contract says my MPG is 73 hours. Any reduction in MPG is exactly how I/you/we are paying for it. Can you not see that? Don’t lecture me about days off, my contract is for 73 hours!!!

Amazing isn't it? Our current contract already has mechanisms built into it for anyone that wants more days off without mandating it for everyone.

Rotorover 09-12-2020 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by TillerTemptress (Post 3127732)
So you're paying for it? How? if you give up some guarantee are you gonna be expected to work on those days? No... you'll have those days off. So United is paying for it. You're giving up some right to go make that money, sure, so that it can be spent elsewhere. In the case of a cancelled displacement, it may even be neutral or in your favor. Working less isn't the worst thing in the world. You can do some retirement type things.. now. While you're young and healthy.

YGTBFKM!!! Are you really as naive as you sound? If we end up not furloughing anyone, it most certainly will be paid by us. We are guaranteed 70/73 hours right now and are not working nearly that much if we bid Reserve. Any reduction in MPG is money out of our pockets. Don't be that guy that expects a handout and doesn't even know or care where it came from.

JoePatroni 09-12-2020 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3127725)
Told her I was washing NCC-1701, the Enterprise. Nothing but a stern look from her. She said that was illogical. She does not even look like Leonard Nimoy.

That's hard to believe, didn't the uniform convince her?

oldmako 09-12-2020 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by TillerTemptress View Post
So you're paying for it? How? if you give up some guarantee are you gonna be expected to work on those days? No... you'll have those days off. So United is paying for it. You're giving up some right to go make that money, sure, so that it can be spent elsewhere. In the case of a cancelled displacement, it may even be neutral or in your favor. Working less isn't the worst thing in the world. You can do some retirement type things.. now. While you're young and healthy.


"YGTBFKM!!! Are you really as naive as you sound? .......


This is why we can't have nice things.

Rotorover 09-12-2020 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by mattc (Post 3127537)
As someone in this boat (2000 UAL hire, twice furloughed, upgraded to guppy CA in Mar of 2019)....I am one of these supposed "carve out" people that could be sitting A320 FO, above the G line...etc...etc.... And I, as someone who understands our history and a 1985 strike over a B scale (look it up if you don't know what that is)...am voting a RESOUNDING NO on this (if the details are as rumored)...WHY would I vote NO when it could mean I'd get NB CA pay for flying NB FO???

Because this POS divides the pilot group! Not just a B scale, but a C scale too no less! How our MEC could even consider putting this to the group for MR is beyond me. I have emailed my LEC reps to tell them of my opinion on this BEFORE they vote to send this for MR. Have you?

The first productive post on this entire thread!!! Thank you for being blunt. Sent my email today.

HuggyU2 09-12-2020 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by TillerTemptress (Post 3127732)
Working less isn't the worst thing in the world. You can do some retirement type things.

I've said it before here: YOU go live your life how it works best for you. Don't tell me how I should figure out what I need for my "quality of life".




Originally Posted by TillerTemptress (Post 3127732)
So United is paying for it. You're giving up some right to go make that money, sure, so that it can be spent elsewhere.


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TransWorld 09-12-2020 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 3127744)
That's hard to believe, didn't the uniform convince her?

It was the first season uniform. She did not recognize it.

JoePatroni 09-12-2020 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3127752)
It was the first season uniform. She did not recognize it.

At least you still fit into it...high five.


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