AIP Rumor Mill
09-11-2020 | 05:59 PM
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AIP Rumor Mill
Here’s what we’ve heard so far:
Agreement in principle reached to mitigate all furloughs
cancel displacements of *top 2 thirds* of pilot group
all DH in first
11K LTD
some RSV improvements
bottom 1/3 (who would of been furloughed) get 50% MPG, Middle 1/3 takes 20% MPG cut, top 1/3 takes 10% MPG cut
Dynamic snap backs based on demand metrics compared to 2019 demand #’s
costs the company more money than a straight furlough
flexibility to quickly recover
11k LTD permanent after 6 months
1st Class DH - permanent after 6 months
RSV rules - permanent after 6 months
Decent pay raise after 6 months
bottom 1/3rd displacements ARE NOT cancelled
snap up metrics are based on Load Factor, not revenue
the decrease in MPG goes up starting at 60% LF
Agreement in principle reached to mitigate all furloughs
cancel displacements of *top 2 thirds* of pilot group
all DH in first
11K LTD
some RSV improvements
bottom 1/3 (who would of been furloughed) get 50% MPG, Middle 1/3 takes 20% MPG cut, top 1/3 takes 10% MPG cut
Dynamic snap backs based on demand metrics compared to 2019 demand #’s
costs the company more money than a straight furlough
flexibility to quickly recover
11k LTD permanent after 6 months
1st Class DH - permanent after 6 months
RSV rules - permanent after 6 months
Decent pay raise after 6 months
bottom 1/3rd displacements ARE NOT cancelled
snap up metrics are based on Load Factor, not revenue
the decrease in MPG goes up starting at 60% LF
09-11-2020 | 06:21 PM
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Any reattack on the Early Out program for the 62-64 crowd who didn't take it last time?
I keep hearing about MPG cuts, but what about Line Credit Averages, Line Credit Floors, and Line Credit Caps for schedule building?
Scope changes? For the better or worse?
What about contractual provisions that are triggered during furloughs? For example the 'tightening' of the LCA to 74-82?
What if a pilot would prefer to be furloughed and had a job lined up? Would it be classified as an involuntary furlough? Would they be guaranteed a long term COLA?
Under what terms can we terminate this agreement?
I keep hearing about MPG cuts, but what about Line Credit Averages, Line Credit Floors, and Line Credit Caps for schedule building?
Scope changes? For the better or worse?
What about contractual provisions that are triggered during furloughs? For example the 'tightening' of the LCA to 74-82?
What if a pilot would prefer to be furloughed and had a job lined up? Would it be classified as an involuntary furlough? Would they be guaranteed a long term COLA?
Under what terms can we terminate this agreement?
09-11-2020 | 09:13 PM
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The carrot is the cancellation of the displacement, so despite the MPG reduction, those displaced to a lower paying fleet or seat would make up the lower MPG at the higher rate. The only justification is that they’d be willing to accept it.
09-12-2020 | 03:52 AM
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09-12-2020 | 04:21 AM
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I don't have any insider information but I look at this way, as of today we are flying about 1/3 of our schedule, hence we theoretically could cut 2/3 of the pilots tomorrow and still staff our operation. The top third has no risk of furlough (but they could face displacement), the bottom third face an immediate furlough and the second third is on deck should things not pick up. So, from a risk/reward standpoint, the buckets make sense. What will be interesting to find out is what exactly is the mechanism for restoring MPG? If 60% is the first gate, what happens? The second third would be safe from furlough at that point, so do they gain the most? Are the gains shared by all the groups equally?
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