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Old 09-17-2020 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sparrowhawk
Can a probationary pilot vote for this TA?

Hey just wanna say, WOW your crystal ball is not bad my friend. Nice work last March. Unfortunately you were very right.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rvfanatic
24 months of cuts for 8 mos, 3:1 advantage to management and the pilots even agreed to pay for those 8 months for us Bob!
not really. if the full amount of any offered loan or aid isn’t taken no furloughs until DEC 2021 (IIRC)

if and when we fly more the first 2/3 MPG improves accordingly so that hit (yes it’s a hit) becomes less.

if we’re still still under 40% or less in 24 months you and me and just about everyone is going to have a less than fun outcome no matter what contract or TA we’re under.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by huell
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Old 09-17-2020 | 11:44 AM
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I find it a bit ironic that a group of right leaning pilots would be so quick to join in support of a socialistic concept such as this TA...,
I guess your ideology can get kind of fuzzy when you’re on the receiving end...

Thank you C12 for doing the right thing
and not jumping in line.
Leadership.....

Hope the moderators take a good look at your personal insults... maybe we’ll get a vacation from your BS
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Old 09-17-2020 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
Pay rate protection. Section F2 says that to be pay protected you have to have a 100% vacancy bid in to qualify. They use the example of someone displaced out of SFO 737 CA, that person would have to have a bid for SFO 737 CA at 100% to qualify. How do pilots displaced when bases closed in meet these requirements? A displaced IAH 777 pilot, or a LAX 756 pilot can’t bid their former BES if it no longer exists.
Great question!

What happens to my “carve out” displacement pay protection if the company decides to park a fleet, Airbus, and my 100% Capt vacancy bid? The TA lists no “trigger” for parking a fleet.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Poss
This is a huge point. Airlines will be scrambling for market share. There will a blood bath of fare sales. Who has the cash to endure cheap tickets and grab market share? Southwest. The airlines know revenue recovery is far off on the horizon.

24 mos of cuts for 9 mos of furlough protection
Paragraph K.2 does need the ALPA finance guy to explain what this means on the virtual road show. He’s the only one on any of the zoom love-a-thons the union has put out that’s been an effective communicator. Not saying it’s a deal breaker but I have a feeling it means we will have this TA for the full 2 years. Assume that and decide I guess.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by copy
Whoa...you got unbanned?? Congrats!!
Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
Hey just wanna say, WOW your crystal ball is not bad my friend. Nice work last March. Unfortunately you were very right.
sparrowhawk is not the guy you are thinking of.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sparrowhawk
Can a probationary pilot vote for this TA?
Don't think so.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sixty N Two
Paragraph K.2 does need the ALPA finance guy to explain what this means on the virtual road show. He’s the only one on any of the zoom love-a-thons the union has put out that’s been an effective communicator. Not saying it’s a deal breaker but I have a feeling it means we will have this TA for the full 2 years. Assume that and decide I guess.
That’s my going in assumption, full two years of this TA for those left on property and 8 months of the TA for the bottom 2850 or so.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rvfanatic
That’s my going in assumption, full two years of this TA for those left on property and 8 months of the TA for the bottom 2850 or so.
if the company furloughs more than magic 2007, Then the TA (LOA) is void for all of us
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