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Sparta 09-17-2020 03:23 AM

Easter Eggs in the TA
 
Every word written in the new TA isn't there by accident. Let's compile a list of management easter eggs that you won't hear about from our union. I found a few so far so I'll start with this: 1) Vacation will be worth 2:20 when computing a line holder's MPG in a 30 day month and 2:20 per day MINUS one vacation day for a 31 day month.

A320fumes 09-17-2020 03:25 AM

The dissenting MEC members are customarily offered the chance to produce a “Con” statement on why they voted No....has anyone seen one?


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130shadow 09-17-2020 03:30 AM

How is it that we don’t learn from lessons past. We have regretted every single concessionary contract in the past. Why will this be any different? This TA is just more awful than imagined.

Airhoss 09-17-2020 04:13 AM


Originally Posted by A320fumes (Post 3130403)
The dissenting MEC members are customarily offered the chance to produce a “Con” statement on why they voted No....has anyone seen one?


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I believe that TI said it passed unanimously did he not?

A320fumes 09-17-2020 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 3130418)
I believe that TI said it passed unanimously did he not?


I heard 16/3


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A320fumes 09-17-2020 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 3130418)
I believe that TI said it passed unanimously did he not?


“Unanimously” is conspicuously missing. As is a “recorded” or “roll-call” tally.

“The MEC and committees have been working on our strategy for over six months, and have come together to vote IN FAVOR of this agreement. I want to thank the entire MEC for working together collaboratively to ensure our negotiators had MEC support reaching important goals and crafting creative solutions to a nearly impossible problem.”


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LeeFXDWG 09-17-2020 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by A320fumes (Post 3130403)
The dissenting MEC members are customarily offered the chance to produce a “Con” statement on why they voted No....has anyone seen one?


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The CON statement will come from C12 since they voted no. It is in progress. The other no vote was the C11 Capt Rep.

Tally was 16/3.

Lee

A320fumes 09-17-2020 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 3130427)
The CON statement will come from C12 since they voted no. It is in progress. The other no vote was the C11 Capt Rep.

Tally was 16/3.

Lee


Thanks. Looking forward to it


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Viperstick 09-17-2020 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by Sparta (Post 3130402)
Every word written in the new TA isn't there by accident. Let's compile a list of management easter eggs that you won't hear about from our union. I found a few so far so I'll start with this: 1) Vacation will be worth 2:20 when computing a line holder's MPG in a 30 day month and 2:20 per day MINUS one vacation day for a 31 day month.

That was the first one that jumped out at me. Another one was the whole "stay on the Guppy/Sparky so we can short course you and you get to keep your previous seat pay rate." Any thoughts on why the company wants to incentivize as many people as possible to forego a full transition training course? Any thoughts on why there's a call for 30-50 new Guppy TIs? Any thoughts on why they can furlough in eight months? Any chance there's a connection there?

guppie 09-17-2020 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by Sparta (Post 3130402)
Every word written in the new TA isn't there by accident. Let's compile a list of management easter eggs that you won't hear about from our union. I found a few so far so I'll start with this: 1) Vacation will be worth 2:20 when computing a line holder's MPG in a 30 day month and 2:20 per day MINUS one vacation day for a 31 day month.

for MPG pro-ration, yes. That does not mean that vacation does not pay 3.25 per day ADD PAY as per section 3-F. That would be a good PDR for clarification.


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