GSTB............. except when:
09-18-2020 | 06:16 AM
#11
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I’ve always interpreted it as a relatively selfish mantra, as in “God save the Ball, so I have better seniority, QOL, vacation, etc.....”
So, in essence, it’s BOTH a cry for unity AND no furloughs. It’s ok to be against furloughs because you’re selfish.....most pilots are. And I think MOST pilots are against furloughs for all the reasons I just stated, until it might affect them....and then it’s time to eat the young.
*In short, I don’t think it’s some altruistic war cry. It’s a way of saying “please God, keep as many people below me as possible”. And that’s something that we ALL usually want.
So, in essence, it’s BOTH a cry for unity AND no furloughs. It’s ok to be against furloughs because you’re selfish.....most pilots are. And I think MOST pilots are against furloughs for all the reasons I just stated, until it might affect them....and then it’s time to eat the young.
*In short, I don’t think it’s some altruistic war cry. It’s a way of saying “please God, keep as many people below me as possible”. And that’s something that we ALL usually want.
09-18-2020 | 06:53 AM
#12
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vote yes.
09-18-2020 | 12:00 PM
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I think you and other like-minded senior guys should draft a resolution for a LOA that would trigger if the furloughs are canceled. This LOA would transfer the furlough fund money towards the a-plan guys you are referring to. I mean.....at least it’s something? Personally I would MUCH rather be paying my own insurance premiums, gainfully employed.....and I have no problem continuing the 1% as a show of gratitude to help those SENIOR guys out. You be the point man on that LOA and I’ll vote for it.
09-18-2020 | 12:08 PM
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I think you and other like-minded senior guys should draft a resolution for a LOA that would trigger if the furloughs are canceled. This LOA would transfer the furlough fund money towards the a-plan guys you are referring to. I mean.....at least it’s something? Personally I would MUCH rather be paying my own insurance premiums, gainfully employed.....and I have no problem continuing the 1% as a show of gratitude to help those SENIOR guys out. You be the point man on that LOA and I’ll vote for it.
09-18-2020 | 12:26 PM
#17
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I think you missed my point. when this was brought up the junior guys talked it down because they didn't think it mattered to them. I know now we are all in this together! For over 30 years many of us have worked to make this a better place to work and much of that better part is in the hands of the new hires. None of this will change my life but when I keep hearing the all in this together now I just go back to those meetings hearing the junior folks fight against helping out some folks that have made it better for them. I also don't think anything you do now will stop the ch-11 proceedings in the near future. I also would rather have you gainfully employed. JMO but everyone that thinks they are being saved better start on plan b as this company has been headed to ch11 since SK got here, the time line has been accelerated.
09-18-2020 | 06:19 PM
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If someone has more specific history, feel
free to share. Anyway, most of us want to help save furloughs and hopefully we can, somehow. But it’s not a specific duty or creed of the United pilot to do so, culturally speaking.
09-18-2020 | 09:53 PM
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It’s an expression of sympathy for the most junior person; tongue in cheek. That’s mainly it. And of course, it also carries some generic unionist meaning about “Taking care of our own”. But never was it associated with furloughs until someone decided that’s what it meant. If the interpretation was about furloughs, nobody ever told the group at large.
If someone has more specific history, feel
free to share. Anyway, most of us want to help save furloughs and hopefully we can, somehow. But it’s not a specific duty or creed of the United pilot to do so, culturally speaking.
If someone has more specific history, feel
free to share. Anyway, most of us want to help save furloughs and hopefully we can, somehow. But it’s not a specific duty or creed of the United pilot to do so, culturally speaking.
