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Already voted and learned from past concessionary contacts. No

it’s so nice that you chose to add some examples and reason to your argument this time shadow ;-)

Instead of telling people want to think, why don’t you explain to us your logic rather than just fear of an unknown outcome. Maybe throw in a couple scenarios where this TA stays in place and yet senior people are (more) negatively affected (than with current UPA). I don’t see one where demand is below 67.5% and we furlough less than 2007 pilots. Do you?

Am not telling you what to think or anyone else. My vote is based on the fact that every time we voted in a concessionary contract over the last 23 years (my time here), we were burned each time. Since history has a tendency to repeat itself, I am a solid no.

Maybe for perspective it’ll help us understand your argument If you’ll remind us again what group you represent. Did you say you were upper or middle group?

Curious what is you timeline for a vaccine approval, production, implementation, and availability and cost to decrease enough to facilitate and demand in travel returning. Also what is you timeline for after these metrics have been met that countries will open up travel again to US. Like I have said before several states are not allowing entry unless you can produce tests results.

This is unknown and beyond the company’s control. If these procedures were already in place then you would at least have a base timeline you could go off of. We have nothing other than saying a vaccine may me approved by 2Q of 2021

so what are you basing your travel bounce back off of?

Solid NO
 

CONCESSIONS do not work. Digging out of a concessionary deal is like digging out of a ditch filled with quicksand. SOLID NO VOTE.

big 5, I’m senior lower tier. However, my vote is not for my own income, like many, I would be better off making 73 hours of FO pay and taking the furlough pay. My vote is to work at a strong airline in 2 to 3 years. I would rather be furloughed than work at the United of 2010. Kirby isn’t Tilton. I’m sure they have a lot on common... but their desires for the airline are 180 degrees.

bottoms up, I have painted scenarios for both increased and stagnant demand. I have never said I know what will happen, But if demand is that low, there is a minuscule chance the company carries 85% of our current list.

1500 from the bottom. Voted No. The company can do better.

you may have painted scenarios but you have failed to address the most important factor in starting travel demand. Therefore your scenarios are flawed from the start. Once you can adequately but a baseline down you may start your scenarios from there.