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tkhayes90 10-21-2020 03:34 PM

Carlson and ALPA email says there will be snapshots. They don’t say when or how many.



Originally Posted by Catcherinthesky (Post 3147806)
Is there a list to see how many are bidding a BES? Thanks!


ugleeual 10-21-2020 03:48 PM

Snapshots are worthless when you have 3000 pilots making selections that can change with the click of a button... the subsequent displacements in Dec will be the real deal.

NavierStokes 10-21-2020 05:20 PM

With the closing of the various BESs, it’s inevitable there will be overstaffing. The company’s mitigation strategy perhaps might morph into a cyclical problem until demand returns. Completely reopening the 756 may be an option to exploit that capability while attempting to optimize pilot utility. These rough times make it difficult to strike an optimal balance!

F15andMD11 10-21-2020 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3148227)
Snapshots are worthless when you have 3000 pilots making selections that can change with the click of a button... the subsequent displacements in Dec will be the real deal.

Very true, but in this “do over” process I’d like to have an idea if I’d be 2999 out of 3000 going to the 787. Slight exaggeration, but even PC quipped that DEN 756 would get 3000 pilots.

rvfanatic 10-22-2020 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Duckdude (Post 3147554)
I’m guessing you could have previously displaced to EWR 756 but chose not to? This bid is only for BES you could not have displaced to before.

If you select SFO 787 and it was shown as an option for you, you will get it. But you could still be displaced in the future.

First snapshot is out and my employee number isn’t showing up anywhere on the list, even though I got email confirmation of my 787 selection. Looks like 787 FO goes into the 8000s seniority then the document ends. This stuff is plain weird.

MasterOfPuppets 10-22-2020 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3148541)
First snapshot is out and my employee number isn’t showing up anywhere on the list, even though I got email confirmation of my 787 selection. Looks like 787 FO goes into the 8000s seniority then the document ends. This stuff is plain weird.

look again.....it has me correct

not as many 87 FOs as I thought they would get.

rvfanatic 10-22-2020 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3148554)
look again.....it has me correct

not as many 87 FOs as I thought they would get.

You really think it’s correct that nobody junior to 8000 bid SFO 787? I triple checked, I didn’t make the list. Not sure where this is laid out that we are guaranteed whichever option we select like you all unanimously state.

cadetdrivr 10-22-2020 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3148559)
You really think it’s correct that nobody junior to 8000 bid SFO 787? I triple checked, I didn’t make the list. Not sure where this is laid out that we are guaranteed whichever option we select like you all unanimously state.

Then stop asking for help?

Seriously. It's in both the documentation from the company and ALPA for you to read yourself.

On a side note, it does appear that the list is either incomplete or corrupted. That does not mean that the info is wrong.

aileronjam 10-22-2020 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3148559)
You really think it’s correct that nobody junior to 8000 bid SFO 787? I triple checked, I didn’t make the list. Not sure where this is laid out that we are guaranteed whichever option we select like you all unanimously state.

I’m showing the most junior pilot awarded SFO 787 is about 12,472

rvfanatic 10-22-2020 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by aileronjam (Post 3148581)
I’m showing the most junior pilot awarded SFO 787 is about 12,472

Looks like they fixed the file and added pages 15 and 16 which are all 787FO. Thx


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