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rvfanatic 10-20-2020 07:12 AM

Second 14-Day Window
 
Anyone else not understand the options available to them when you find your employee # in the 900 ish page pdf that’s linked in the second 14 day CCS message that was sent to those eligible to rebid a different airframe? I was displaced from 756 to 320 and my 3 options are CLE737, DEN 756, and SFO 787.

cadetdrivr 10-20-2020 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3147540)
Anyone else not understand the options available to them when you find your employee # in the 900 ish page pdf that’s linked in the second 14 day CCS message that was sent to those eligible to rebid a different airframe? I was displaced from 756 to 320 and my 3 options are CLE737, DEN 756, and SFO 787.

Those are literarily your only three options if you want to participate. Thus, if you are happy where you are don't do it.

However, if you pick one you WILL get it so that's why there is no percentage bidding.

JimLaheyTPS 10-20-2020 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 3147545)
Those are literarily your only three options if you want to participate. Thus, if you are happy where you are, don't do it.

However, if you pick one you WILL get it so that's why there is no percentage bidding.

And if you get it (787), unless you’re mid tier seniority range and above I wouldn’t count on ever going to training before the clean up displacements come.

cadetdrivr 10-20-2020 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by JimLaheyTPS (Post 3147546)
And if you get it (787), unless you’re mid tier seniority range and above I wouldn’t count on ever going to training before the clean up displacements come.

Yup, and that could actually be a "bump game" strategy considering that on any subsequent displacement one can bump to whatever category one can hold and not just the choices on this do over.

rvfanatic 10-20-2020 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 3147545)
Those are literarily your only three options if you want to participate. Thus, if you are happy where you are don't do it.

However, if you pick one you WILL get it so that's why there is no percentage bidding.

Why CLE, DEN, and SFO? It doesn’t make sense to me why it’s base specific when DEN 756 is more senior than EWR 756. You said if I pick one I will get it. So based off the info I gave you, I have a 100% chance of getting SFO 787 if I select it?

Duckdude 10-20-2020 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3147552)
Why CLE, DEN, and SFO? It doesn’t make sense to me why it’s base specific when DEN 756 is more senior than EWR 756. You said if I pick one I will get it. So based off the info I gave you, I have a 100% chance of getting SFO 787 if I select it?

I’m guessing you could have previously displaced to EWR 756 but chose not to? This bid is only for BES you could not have displaced to before.

If you select SFO 787 and it was shown as an option for you, you will get it. But you could still be displaced in the future.

MasterOfPuppets 10-20-2020 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3147552)
Why CLE, DEN, and SFO? It doesn’t make sense to me why it’s base specific when DEN 756 is more senior than EWR 756. You said if I pick one I will get it. So based off the info I gave you, I have a 100% chance of getting SFO 787 if I select it?

you can only choose a position that you could NOT have chosen during the displacements. If you had the ability to go elsewhere during the three displacements then they assume you are where you want to be.

MasterOfPuppets 10-20-2020 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3147552)
Why CLE, DEN, and SFO? It doesn’t make sense to me why it’s base specific when DEN 756 is more senior than EWR 756. You said if I pick one I will get it. So based off the info I gave you, I have a 100% chance of getting SFO 787 if I select it?

100% you will get SFO 787. They cannot say no to you for those options they gave you but those are the only options you have.

rvfanatic 10-20-2020 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Duckdude (Post 3147554)
I’m guessing you could have previously displaced to EWR 756 but chose not to? This bid is only for BES you could not have displaced to before.

If you select SFO 787 and it was shown as an option for you, you will get it. But you could still be displaced in the future.

No I couldn’t get Ewr 756 because I was displaced from that to Ewr 320. I’m in the June furlough cross hairs so it’s probably futile but it could improve furlough pay if I could hold WB pay. Just doesn’t seem realistic in this climate to get a pay raise so that’s why I’m so confused I think.

cadetdrivr 10-20-2020 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3147552)
Why CLE, DEN, and SFO? It doesn’t make sense to me why it’s base specific when DEN 756 is more senior than EWR 756. You said if I pick one I will get it. So based off the info I gave you, I have a 100% chance of getting SFO 787 if I select it?

Yes.

This could not be any simpler: if you participate and pick any of your specific choices you WILL get it. If you prefer your current category then don't participate.

As others have mentioned above, everybody's choices on the "do over" are different based how the previous displacements played out. And because of that, only a subset of pilots are even eligible for the "do over" anyway.


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