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MasterOfPuppets 11-19-2020 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 3161093)
more straw man nonsense. Time to put the shovel down MOP.

im not sure that means what you think it means.

Guppydriver95 11-19-2020 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3161095)
im not sure that means what you think it means.

Funny. I guess your “I’m a tk smart guy” mentality extends to the rest of your life as well. I’d explain what it means, but seeing as you love book work so much, I’ll let you do your own homework. This is growing tiresome. I’ve haven’t heard much in the way of logic in several posts. Just schoolyard nonsense. You can have the last word, but your attempts to paint me as something I’m not are simply bogus and BS. The issue started when you got on your high horse and said we’d have “a problem” if you couldn’t recite a procedure that is so rare that many have NEVER done it. That’s it. Period. End of story. All the other insults were just a poor attempt to muddy the water. Like I said, my training record speaks for itself. Bringing up the “I want my family safe on your jet” card? Pathetic. So I can’t quote the book re a non memory item, and suddenly your family isn’t safe. Dude- you don’t have any idea what the hell you're talking about.

Half wing 11-19-2020 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun (Post 3161057)
Nice tie.....

Nice legacy wings. You gents are out of touch. The days of stump the dummy are gone. We(line pilots) are the customers at TK. I haven’t had an experience there where I didn’t feel like I was the customer. Yeah, it’s the PI’s job to train you but surprise there are objective performance standards. If you haven’t looked at a manual since the pre iPad days and still think you are standard/average you probably don’t meet those standards. Above all, I expect TK to turn out pilots that I feel will take care of my family sitting in the back. So far, all I hear is old man Guppy 95 Beating his chest that he doesn’t need to study and that TK better take care of him or he’ll remove the PI. He sounds like a terrible pilot. TK will make sure he gets all the retraining he needs so that he goes back to the line a safe pilot, as they should. The ALPA pin that I wear proudly, means to me that United pilots support each other. Doesn’t having a culture of safety ultimately support United pilots? I think we need to raise the bar a bit.

Guppydriver95 11-19-2020 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Half wing (Post 3161112)
Nice legacy wings. You gents are out of touch. The days of stump the dummy are gone. We(line pilots) are the customers at TK. I haven’t had an experience there where I didn’t feel like I was the customer. Yeah, it’s the PI’s job to train you but surprise there are objective performance standards. If you haven’t looked at a manual since the pre iPad days and still think you are standard/average you probably don’t meet those standards. Above all, I expect TK to turn out pilots that I feel will take care of my family sitting in the back. So far, all I hear is old man Guppy 95 Beating his chest that he doesn’t need to study and that TK better take care of him or he’ll remove the PI. He sounds like a terrible pilot. TK will make sure he gets all the retraining he needs so that he goes back to the line a safe pilot, as they should. The ALPA pin that I wear proudly, means to me that United pilots support each other. Doesn’t having a culture of safety ultimately support United pilots? I think we need to raise the bar a bit.

Total tool. Once again, complete bs mischaracterization. .

GPullR 11-19-2020 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3160937)
i never said looking it up was a problem. Go back and read what I originally wrote.



there is never anything wrong with looking something up as long as it doesn’t take you 5 minutes to do it.



tk is there for you. But there is also an expectation that you know the basics. I only have 4 hrs to get you ready for a validation on CQ. There’s atleast 2 hours of material I must cover maybe more, plus questions. TK is here for you to a point but TK will also not hesitate to sign you up for more training if you need it.

I've seen guys crash 3 SE approaches in a row and still pass. Seen another just as bad. They still pass.

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GPullR 11-19-2020 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3161087)
Iv told plenty of pilots that they need to open a book and study. If your book knowledge is weak I will be the first to tell you, that’s my job. I’m not here to give you a participation trophy I’m here to make sure my family is safe on your plane. If that hurts your feelings then so be it.

Then you come fly the line and we baby sit.

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MasterOfPuppets 11-19-2020 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 3161116)
I've seen guys crash 3 SE approaches in a row and still pass. Seen another just as bad. They still pass.

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yeah that can happen. We can’t just fail someone without them hitting certain gates, that is because of AQP. Iv seen crews that needed to be downed but they didn’t hit that final threshold. The debrief was where I let them know that what I saw was unacceptable and then sent them on their way.

MasterOfPuppets 11-19-2020 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 3161121)
Then you come fly the line and we baby sit.

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somtimes.....I usually take pride in NOT being that guy but it happens sometimes. Last trip I totally **** the bed....mostly because I was in an airport that I don’t fly out of much and my SA was just not quite there. Thanks to the CA for getting me straightened out on day one. Day 2 was much better, except for the landing :rolleyes:. Realized afterward that it was my first night landing in a while, flared too high.

ReadyRsv 11-19-2020 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3161122)
yeah that can happen. We can’t just fail someone without them hitting certain gates, that is because of AQP. Iv seen crews that needed to be downed but they didn’t hit that final threshold. The debrief was where I let them know that what I saw was unacceptable and then sent them on their way.

What in the everliving F did I just read. If you personally don't believe a crew is qualified then you 100% have the ability to not pass them. Please tell me you are joking.

Airhoss 11-20-2020 03:37 AM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 3161189)
What in the everliving F did I just read. If you personally don't believe a crew is qualified then you 100% have the ability to not pass them. Please tell me you are joking.

Nope,

It depends on the event. AQP generally keeps moving a weak student through the training until they hit a hard stop with a failed validation. After a failed validation they get additional training.


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