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Since AA is flying its MAX in December, when will UAL fly it?

After the merger closes.

Several Max 9's were down in Orlando getting software updates done to them them past 2 weeks.

March or April.

Looks like the Max-10 is delayed for a couple years. The Air Current published an article recently that stated Boeing was looking at further modifications to that particular model rather than a clean sheet narrow body design.

They need to do a clean sheet, but they are so far airbus. 777x problems, 787 problems, max problems

KC-46 problems, Apache problems...

Are all the fixes software or are there some hardware fixes needed?

Nothing wrong with the Max that this machine can't fix.

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What model Weber is that?

December return of the -8 or -9 is overly optimistic (my personal opinion). The FSB report, which outlines new pilot training requirements, is still in draft and just closed to public comments 11/2. It will take some time for FAA to adjudicate all the comments and finalize the FSB report. After that, airline training programs will have to be revised and approved. Then additional pilot Differences training (NG to Max) can begin. Not to mention all the Airworthiness - AD requirements for RTS. For the future -10, I would hypothesize (3) AOA vanes may be standard equippage.

News media says AA is planning a December rts for the Max. Has AA managed to overcome all these obstacles you say is gonna severely hinder rts?

EASA approved the Max to return to service with the stipulation that the MAX 10 had to have the third AOA (actual or synthetic) before its first delivery and existing MAX’s would get the retrofits in due time.

What is a synthetic AOA? Is it derived from the other two?

the 787 has a synthetic airspeed that uses the aoa’s and other sources (via gps? Iru’s?) so it could be something like that.

https://www.aviationpros.com/aircraf...light-controls

ERJ 170/190 had 4 pitot tubes. It would derive the AOA from data. They called them “smart probes”. Next time you see one you will notice it doesn’t have a traditional AOA vane.

There doesn’t seem to be much info on this. All I found was an article where Ryanair said that the planes could be delayed up to two years. When the decision to go with the max was announced, I thought that it made sense because of how many 737’s we have. Now with the benefit of hindsight, I hope that it is delayed and that we cancel the order and place an order for an equal number of 321 NEO’s.

agreed. It will be interesting to see what they use for premium Transcontinental flights now that the PW 75s are officially retired. The MAX 10 with lie flats was their planned replacement for those. Do they put lie flats on the MAX 9 or just use the extra “high J” 767s they have sitting around

We’d have to have premium passengers to need a premium seating configuration. Most analysts say that business travel will be slow to recover, and until then the focus will probably be cramming as many as possible into the cheap seats. I imagine that our first class lav policy is ticking our potential premium customers off too. They spend extra or burn miles to sit in a bigger seat and relax or get some work done. Now they just get the bigger seat and have all of the coach passengers lining up to use the front lav. I doubt that lie flat seats are going to be an issue for a while.

What’s the (new?) first class lav policy?

Anyone can use it.

Training for instructors/LCAs should begin in December with limited flights maybe end of January but return to service in February mid month with Houston trips to start then LAX and possibly SFO or DEN trips (pairings/IDs) containing -9 legs. -8 shows up in June and -10 late next year at the earliest.

It will be interesting to see how the required Max sim training affects the 737 program. The schedule is already packed, and having to bring current pilots in for sim training could further delay initial and RQ courses resulting from the displacements.

Agreed. I would suspect that they will pick a domicile with out and backs to start things. Then move on as sim limitations allow to other domiciles / crews in line for training.

I’m hoping that they use sim space to bring current 737 pilots up to speed on the max before getting to pilots waiting to go to initial or RQ training. It’s not like we need pilots right now, and I’m still hoping to go a year without having to set foot on an airplane.

That sounds terrible!!!

The best job in the world is the one that you get paid not to do. I’d rather the company be printing money and expanding like we did last year, but this has basically been an 8 month FBO. I don’t miss flying or commuting, and sitting at home non-qual is definitely the best place to ride this out.

I’m glad it’s working out for you, I really am! For me, doing one trip a month and getting paid to sit reserve at home was ideal. But getting paid to sit at home is almost as nice!

I’m actually dreading going back to work. It has nothing to do with the actual job, but getting current again. I haven’t cracked a book or read a single pilot bulletin since March. I’ve even dumped most of the FOM. It’s going to take a lot of time studying to even be ready to go to school. Since I don’t even know what fleet I’m going to end up on, I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I get there.

it won’t affect training at all. There are 3 MAX sims sitting and doing nothing. All training will be done in those. Once all 737 pilots are trained in those 3 sims the amount of normal training that can be done will go way up.

since we didn’t furlough the instructor group there are more than enough instructors to handle it.

I was in the same boat when I showed up for landings class. Don’t sweat it, cuz you don’t get paid to study on days off. They’ll get you up to speed—that’s tk’s job.

I think it’s a grill mas(h)ter

I don’t care about the FM until I get to TK, but dumping the FOM is also a problem. Required dispatch notifications, security section,..... all gone. There are just some things that we’re expected to know, and I’ve dumped most of it. Regardless of where and when I get back up to speed, it’s going to be a bunch of work.

take it for what it’s worth but the moment you step into that sim there’s only four options. Sat, Sat short cycle, Unsat and incomplete and you only get an incomplete if the sim breaks or you break. So you better be ready to go or you better be ready to go within 2 hours of stepping into that building.

If you need or want more time then you better start asking.

Since the merger i don't think they have handed out 1 unsat. Santa clause is everywhere in that building.

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completely untrue

you want one?:D

Agree about the sim. My point was about the book knowledge. But, as you alluded to, more sim time is available if one asks for it.

there were definitely different standards between the 2 airlines when we merged. 10 years later, we’ve punted the scabs, fixed the poor programs, and added better systems and FOM requirements to the footprints. It’s not perfect, but it’s better than it was.

i just wonder if there will be a significant number who have aged up to close to 65 who say it is just not worth it and just call it a day.