Simple. Wear a mask and protect someone else. Don’t need to hear your talking points for deflection.

And the ramifications of not wearing a mask are what?? Ridicule and intimidation?? A monetary fine??? Incarceration?? Where does it end?? As a previous poster mentioned: live your life, assess and mitigate the risks you find unacceptable, and use some common sense. And here’s an article regarding the absurdity of “asymptomatic spread”. https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horow...hin-households

You guys have the right to smoke til your lungs turn to ash, eat an unhealthy diet until your heart seizes, drink until you crap your liver out your rear. What you don’t have the right is to undertake an action or inaction that threatens the health of others around you.

The talking point is this, YOU want to impose and mandate YOUR desires and fears on others in spite of the policies and procedures which have been made quite clear to all. And since YOU oppose these You want to change it.

Therefore the best answer is for YOU and others like YOU to exercise YOUR right to decide to stay at home and quit trying to impose and mandate YOUR desires on others.

Now if YOU would like to politely request the other pilot in the cockpit wear a mask, then do the responsible and mature thing of contacting the other pilot prior to the scheduled flight. This does two things, it allows YOU and the other to decide how to best make this work and it prevents all the other people (in the thousands BTW) who will be effected by any conflict YOU have caused by YOUR insistence of mask wearing from also being penalized by YOU.

YOUR decisions have a far greater reach than the simple spreading of the virus, but YOU are so myopic about it, YOU probably never noticed.

Best solution, stay home and stay away from the general population. That will spread one less potential virus.

One last note on this statement which reveals YOUR ignorance or at least failure to understand life and consequences.

All those things mentioned, according to you, seemingly only effect the abuser. Well think again and look at the effects and devastation all of these bring to so many others, especially alcohol consumption. If YOU really cared about saving lives you may want to take your COVID passion and mania and apply it to other meaningful areas.

Or maybe just learn to let people manage their own lives a bit more.

Right or wrong the company (and FAA) policy is clear... no requirement to wear a mask when at the flight control once the door is closed. If you want the other pilot to wear a mask then simply ask them... if they refuse you can either operate the flight without a mask or pull yourself from the trip after contacting the CPO/FODM. The company guidance is clear that one pilot cannot coerce another to wear one regardless of what rationale they use. Until this changes nothing written within this thread matters. The simulator is a different issue... company policy is also clear that you will wear a mask at all time or be subject to disciplinary action to include termination... you cannot coerce the other pilots to not wear a mask.

The company sets the rules and I work within them. I have never insisted anyone wear a mask in the cockpit.

You must realize how silly this “stay at home” and not work mantra sounds.

Devastation versus death. Indirect vs direct consequence. I fully understand.

Exactly. I do think the above is subject to change if we see a rapid rise of infection amongst the pilot group over the next 1-3 months.

Given the FAA's position on mask use in the cockpit, it would sure be nice to be fairly high up on the vaccine priority list since there's no work from home option and the direct safety of hundreds of people at a time is on the line.