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Broncofan 03-31-2021 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 3214277)
They were interviewing for the twelve 787 fleet manager positions that I seem to see advertised on CCS daily.😄

now that’s funny

hummingbear 03-31-2021 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3214269)
a lot of people in suits walking around TK today with visitors badges and portfolio folders......

but you can be Eeore if you like.

Don't get me wrong, I’d love for this to be the beginning of a robust rebound- there’s even a fair chance it could be. I’m also seeing resurgent viral spread in the US & Europe. France is locking back down. Even if COVID is under control by the summer, its longer lasting economic impacts are yet unknown. And we still haven’t cracked 50% pilot block hours in a single month. Call me Eeyore if you like, but I see many obstacles to overcome before we’re back to the 2019 party.

I'm all for optimism, but I ain’t buying that captain house yet is all I’m saying...

sleeves 03-31-2021 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Chuck D (Post 3213855)
Agree. But how do you determine that?

thought - if (and I’m not specifically talking about UAL but this fully in effect in some corners of the industry) a pre-interview test gouge sheet is widely available amongst squadron buds (or any inside group) and they all rock the test are they therefore the most qualified individuals?

What you are leaving out is the fact that not everyone in the squadron or inside group gets the recommendation. The bad apples get left out. At Continental in the mid 2000’s a Pilot could get someone hired. I didn’t recommend many because I had seen their poor performance at the regionals. You are right in that you cannot screen someone in a few short interviews but, relying on past performance and those that have seen that performance is a proven method of screening talent.

Race, gender, sexual orientation should all be left out of it. None of those help or hinder talent.

Chuck D 04-01-2021 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 3214314)
What you are leaving out is the fact that not everyone in the squadron or inside group gets the recommendation. The bad apples get left out. At Continental in the mid 2000’s a Pilot could get someone hired. I didn’t recommend many because I had seen their poor performance at the regionals. You are right in that you cannot screen someone in a few short interviews but, relying on past performance and those that have seen that performance is a proven method of screening talent.

Race, gender, sexual orientation should all be left out of it. None of those help or hinder talent.

Full array of opinions on this. We're not going to effectively hash it all out in some Internet forum and we're all going to get pulled down into the mud by the least common denominator (probably by some guy talking about Hyundais and coal rolling if past is prologue). Am guessing you and I aren't conducting the interviews so go through the union if you have an opinion/suggestion you want to express on the process. It's still the company making the final decision. Once a pilot is here they're welcome in every sense of the word and it's on them to perform well and on us to mentor them as we all uphold the standards we expect of each other. They're high standards as they darn well need to be.

Flt1ok 04-01-2021 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 3214277)
They were interviewing for the twelve 787 fleet manager positions that I seem to see advertised on CCS daily.😄

Well played, sir.

Flydafe 04-01-2021 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 3214313)
Don't get me wrong, I’d love for this to be the beginning of a robust rebound- there’s even a fair chance it could be. I’m also seeing resurgent viral spread in the US & Europe. France is locking back down. Even if COVID is under control by the summer, its longer lasting economic impacts are yet unknown. And we still haven’t cracked 50% pilot block hours in a single month. Call me Eeyore if you like, but I see many obstacles to overcome before we’re back to the 2019 party.

I'm all for optimism, but I ain’t buying that captain house yet is all I’m saying...

I agree and see the same thing on the news. I’m wondering what’s it going to be like after the government funding is done with.

fucius 04-01-2021 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 3214314)
What you are leaving out is the fact that not everyone in the squadron or inside group gets the recommendation. The bad apples get left out. At Continental in the mid 2000’s a Pilot could get someone hired. I didn’t recommend many because I had seen their poor performance at the regionals. You are right in that you cannot screen someone in a few short interviews but, relying on past performance and those that have seen that performance is a proven method of screening talent.

Race, gender, sexual orientation should all be left out of it. None of those help or hinder talent.


Yet, they prevent critical opportunities from ever being presented in the first place...


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fucius 04-01-2021 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Chuck D (Post 3214448)
Full array of opinions on this. We're not going to effectively hash it all out in some Internet forum and we're all going to get pulled down into the mud by the least common denominator (probably by some guy talking about Hyundais and coal rolling if past is prologue). Am guessing you and I aren't conducting the interviews so go through the union if you have an opinion/suggestion you want to express on the process. It's still the company making the final decision. Once a pilot is here they're welcome in every sense of the word and it's on them to perform well and on us to mentor them as we all uphold the standards we expect of each other. They're high standards as they darn well need to be.


^this!


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ugleeual 04-01-2021 12:06 PM

VP ops just sent out a message... said the 300 with conditional offers is just the start. Also said that effective May the section of the Pandemic Agreement on reduced MPG is stopped and all pilots will receive the full 73 hour reserve guarantee or 72 LPA for line holders... and will stay in effect anytime a new hire is on property. This is really good news.

aviator249 04-01-2021 12:13 PM

New hire pilot on property
 

Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3214690)
VP ops just sent out a message... said the 300 with conditional offers is just the start. Also said that effective May the section of the Pandemic Agreement on reduced MPG is stopped and all pilots will receive the full 73 hour reserve guarantee or 72 LPA for line holders... and will stay in effect anytime a new hire is on property. This is really good news.

What is the definition of a “new hire pilot on property?” Probation? BI? After fleet training? When does a new hire pilot cease to be a new hire? Right now it’s a moot point since we have PSP, but new hire wasn’t listed in definitions of UPA. Did the company leave this open to interpretation so they can define it how they want in response to recovery?


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