Honestly, I'm sure someone is concerned about it... But if a corporation is afraid to fire someone with just cause... A corporation with a huge legal department and who clearly makes strides to improve diversity and inclusion, then I'd say that's one manager who needs to go. You meet the standards, or you don't. Whether it's a regional or a major, that's how it is. So, what's the problem? The problem was at Atlas, they showed someone to continue flying who did not meet the standard. Make excuses about the company being "afraid" and throw the new right wing buzz word "woke" around all you want...the fact remains that atlas management killed our new hire by failing to enforce standards on their pilots.

United airlines enforces the standards. So what is the problem, again?

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All 5 of the minority pilots you've flown with have a problem with the zero hour aviate program trying to intake 50% minority candidates? Of which, only a small percentage will ever become airline pilots, and an even smaller percentage United pilots? That's strange, because most people I fly with either don't know much about the Aviate program or have someone they know who they are trying to get into it. In fact... I don't recall talking about diversity at all on my last few trips. Is that something you like to bring up with the minority pilots?

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The news was just talking about this study and it reminded me of this forum debate. It found that an African-American name on a resume is worth 8 years of experience. Thats a lot when compared to the airline sector.

https://cos.gatech.edu/facultyres/Di...kishaJamal.pdf

United diversity.......
 

All 5 of these guys seem to have a problem with quotas and anything that suggests they earned their spot due to their skin color and not their merit. I know that’s a very difficult concept for the woke geniuses to understand. To woke people, it appears that minorities must be incapable of achieving their goals and dreams without the virtuous woke white people letting them do so via quotas and virtue signaling.

Also, just about every pilot I know couldn’t give two feces about the race or sex of the person who’s sitting next to them. It’s as relevant as the color of their eyes. The topic would come up when talking about kids pursuing aviation, discussing airline hiring, and it’s not like this was some obscure news release either.

Ironic that this reply was to a “minority like yourself “. If you’ve both experienced the same scrutiny, skepticism and barriers, why are your attitudes so different?

btw, my wife and kids are minorities so this is an important topic to me.

True. Well said.

This looks like a normal business, but bolsheviks are using it for cover. The pilot must always examine his surroundings for anything that is out of place, because his enemy is skilled and determined. Take this HR department for example. Its flexible standards offer superior concealment to the production and service centers of the business. Luckily First Officer Robertson is an adept and observant employee. There he is, FO Robertson. Get him! CRACK!!! Another day is saved by vigilant employees like you.

Well said . I agree 1000%

That's a great point. That's no good. But, you and I know it's far worse than that. I can point to at least 7 people hired here that would have only had the flight time/qualificaitons to get on at a regional, at the time/date they were hired. However, due to their influence and connections, their lack of experience was overlooked or set a side.

My major point is this: I believe experience is a valuable teacher. One that cannot be immulated or short-cut. Experience, adn that building block aproach builds judgment. Someday when you upgrade, you lean on that judgement and pull from your past experiences. I would disagree with any process that short-cuts the building of, and the value of experience.

Lowering hiring minimums is akin to devaluing experience. Experience is the best teacher and therefore should not be marganilized or minimized, in partcular by HR who are setting minority quotas. We can call it "diversity" or whatever the buzz word of the day is. I call it "devaluing experience." The devaluing of experience will have an impact on safety. Maybe not today, but when you want to lean on and pull from that experience, it won't be there.

The other day, I went to look up something in my IPAD about windshear takeoffs as some foul WX aproached our runway for take off.. My IPAD froze on me. I had to lean on my experience. Sometimes our Ipads just don't work. I think you get my drift.

I wonder what the percentage is world-wide for pilots of genetic Swiss descent? Wouldn't they qualify as "diversity candidates?"

We could all look into our genetics, our past family tree to see where we descended from. I guess only women and people with brown skin color qualify as minorities. What a myopic view.