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BobbyLeeSwagger 05-27-2021 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3241871)
And quality control could be a fantastic post retirement gig.

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CALPilotToo 07-29-2021 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3234610)
Did Aviate just solidify a no degree avalanche of pilots? Reading the aviate website, it seem one can go from getting one’s ratings at the academy to 24 months at a regional to UAL. I think this is crazy. Is this correct? Are we now going to have mass of high school edumacted pilots in the flight deck? This should be rethought.

Wow! What an elitist statement. I personally had no desire for college. Went to tech school and got certified in electrical and plumbing and started taking flying lessons. Thought getting a private might be fun. Next thing I knew just kept going. While flight instructing etc continued to work in the construction field and always made great cash money. Once on with regional which honestly wasn’t a major goal til it actually presented itself. Once there took some college online stuff but was bored. Didn’t see the need. Waste of money in my mind at the time. Even then was making way more on my days off than the Capts. Got hired by CAL and the rest is what it is. I might be an uneducated moron to you but I can wire and plumb a new home or commercial property and that has proven very beneficial with my commercial strip rental properties while making WB Capt. rate.

Sorry people like you so negatively judge those who are missing that little line on their resume. I’ll take my pre retirement portfolio over 99% of most college degreed righteous types. Carry on…

Now if you had simply said, to give yourself the best opportunity one would suggest a degree. I would agree with you.

CALPilotToo 07-29-2021 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3234641)
Everyone knows that your chances of getting hired by a legacy without a degree are slim to none, yet people still refuse to get one and then complain about not getting hired? Interesting.

Funny how I’m one that which you refer yet have never heard anyone complain about not getting hired because of no degree.

CALPilotToo 07-29-2021 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3235137)
I’ve also seen hundreds of dumb@sides with degrees, and quite a few brilliant people without. Having said that, I went online and finished my degree for the SOLE purpose of getting hired by a Legacy carrier. It would have been willful negligence not to. I’m not the slightest bit smarter for getting the degree.....but my financial security has grown considerably. #getthedegree

Agree with this and it’s appreciated you state simple facts and not refer to those without a degree as an unedamucated person like some here have.

Excargodog 07-29-2021 04:49 PM

I don’t pay much attention to anyone who puts ‘edumacated’ into the discussion.

CALPilotToo 07-29-2021 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3270882)
I don’t pay much attention to anyone who puts ‘edumacated’ into the discussion.

Agree and it does kinda take on a ‘racist’ tone by typing and saying it like that. I bet Gooselives doesn’t have the elitist guts to put that kinda statement on a forum where his/her true identity is known. He or she is worried about no degree pilots in our ranks, whereas, I see comments like that and am concerned of racist pilots in our ranks.

ThumbsUp 07-30-2021 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by CALPilotToo (Post 3270875)
Funny how I’m one that which you refer yet have never heard anyone complain about not getting hired because of no degree.

You can’t hear anyone complaining about “not getting hired because of no degree,” because they didn’t get hired.

Excargodog 07-30-2021 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by CALPilotToo (Post 3270978)
Agree and it does kinda take on a ‘racist’ tone by typing and saying it like that. I bet Gooselives doesn’t have the elitist guts to put that kinda statement on a forum where his/her true identity is known. He or she is worried about no degree pilots in our ranks, whereas, I see comments like that and am concerned of racist pilots in our ranks.

I don’t think ‘racist’ (although I suppose that’s possible too) so much as arrogant and self-absorbed. It’s sort of like the discussion about Professional Military Education in general and Squadron Officer’s School in particular on the Military thread. Whether you did SOS by correspondence, in residence, or not at all, is pretty much irrelevant to what sort of leadership and talent you have as an officer, but it is NOT irrelevant to your promotability because it’s a hoop you are expected to jump through by the organization. The same might be said of college degrees and aviation

A degree doesn’t necessarily make you a better pilot and particularly with some of the truly bull$hit degree majors these days doesn’t necessarily even give you any intellectual advantage over someone that got their high school equivalence by GED, but it’s an expectation of many HR people that you have it before they’ll grant you the interview.

Should it be that way? Almost certainly not. But it’s like age limits on driving, voting, firearms, etc. Society uses age as an indicator of maturity because it’s far more easily measurable than maturity, but we all know it isn’t the same thing. I’ve known incredibly responsible young teens - and adults that I wouldn’t trust to puppy’s it my dog for the weekend. But that doesn’t change the world we live in. Getting to a major if you have a degree - at least at present - is easier than if you don’t.

oldmako 08-02-2021 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3271016)
You can’t hear anyone complaining about “not getting hired because of no degree,” because they didn’t get hired.

Bullshchitt. I did it and know of several others as well. One thing I hate about Airline Pilots (in general) is how cocksure they are of themselves about damn near everything and just how quick they are to rub your nose in it.

Retirement is totally underrated.

Airhoss 08-02-2021 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 3272646)
Bullshchitt. I did it and know of several others as well. One thing I hate about Airline Pilots (in general) is how cocksure they are of themselves about damn near everything and just how quick they are to rub your nose in it.

Retirement is completely underrated.

Homey! I hadn’t heard from you in so long I thought you might have been back in hole.


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