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Old 05-13-2021 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Winston
The college degree preference (just shy of being a requirement), while understandable when it’s a seller’s market, is a bit absurd when they’re desperate enough to fund a training pipeline for zero-hour candidates.

I’ve got a good buddy from the RJ days who has spent the last decade flying heavies internationally for Cathay, but his application is basically DOA at all the majors because he went from high school directly to flight school.

Apparently his knowledge, skills, and experience account for next to nothing while a fresh-faced AVIATE enrollee will get fast tracked to a multi-million dollar career…

This industry is crazy.
What's crazy is that people have known this for decades but still refuse to accept reality and get a degree. They'd rather spend more time whining about it instead of a couple years taking online classes while getting credit for hours flown -- and moving on.

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Old 05-14-2021 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by KonaJoe
What's crazy is that people have known this for decades but still refuse to accept reality and get a degree. They'd rather spend more time whining about it instead of a couple years taking online classes while getting credit for hours flown -- and moving on.

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This. There’s a reason why many employers require a degree. Critical thinking skills, ability to write and communicate, the willingness to follow through with a task are several that come to mind.
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Old 05-14-2021 | 01:36 AM
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When I submit reports, they’re ALWAYS in APA format.
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Old 05-14-2021 | 03:15 AM
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There are also a lot of really bad flying jobs. Money, home life, insurance, hotels, poorly maintained airplanes... you aren't just going to be handed the best job because you think you're awesome. You are competing against some really sharp people from all walks of life and a degree is pretty low bar to set. Thomas edison in NJ would even give you credit for your ratings and was entirely online for a regional pilots schedule a "4 year" degree in 2 if you tried.
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Old 05-14-2021 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
When I submit reports, they’re ALWAYS in APA format.
we have ALPA here that’s over on the AA forum
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Old 05-14-2021 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Deafguppy
This. There’s a reason why many employers require a degree. Critical thinking skills, ability to write and communicate, the willingness to follow through with a task are several that come to mind.
Funny, I learned that stuff in high-school
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Old 05-14-2021 | 04:23 AM
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Let me elaborate. I started flying before I was old enough to drive. Spent a few years as an air traffic controller in the military. Ran my own business for 7 years. But none of that matters. I have to go take correspondence courses in things I don't even remember in order to get a flying job.
Dedication, critical thinking, communication skills are not the sole property of the college educated.
Don't get me wrong. I support a company being able the set whatever bar they want. They wanted a Degree, so I got one. But, don't be all high and mighty about " higher " education.
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Old 05-14-2021 | 05:02 AM
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I think that the 8000+ hour pilot with a collection of type ratings and no degree is a much better candidate than a low time pilot with one. The problem is that those in charge of hiring have always insisted that the degree is all but mandatory. It’s their court, their rules. If you want to work for a legacy, get a degree.
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Old 05-14-2021 | 06:05 AM
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What does it matter? United has made it plain that what they really want is the right gender and ethnic background....






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Old 05-14-2021 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
What does it matter? United has made it plain that what they really want is the right gender and ethnic background....






All United is doing is planning to train 2,500 women or minority pilots in the next 8 years. Not all 2,500 of those will be hired at United.


United is planning on hiring 10,000 pilots in the next decade.

If United decides to hire all 2,500, that is only 25% of the amount of pilots they are going to hire.

Don’t be ignorant.
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