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ThumbsUp 11-10-2021 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3321082)
how is that any different than calling in sick during regular times? Get a cold and call out - holidays or not.

He’s pointing out the difference between following the COVID symptoms policy to the letter vs calling in sick.

Hedley 11-10-2021 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3321082)
how is that any different than calling in sick during regular times? Get a cold and call out - holidays or not.

If you get the flu and don’t report it, you can call in sick for only the time that you are actually sick. If you report the flu symptoms, practically all are shared by covid, you will have to use your sick bank for any trip inside a 10 day quarantine. For those wanting to maximize a fake sick call, the policy works to your advantage. For those who don’t want to use more time than they need, the policy is punitive and encourages people not to report covid symptoms.

JurgenKlopp 11-10-2021 06:05 PM

Prob not the time to vote for someone running for IAH LEC chair who happens to be part of this lawsuit...

guppie 11-16-2021 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3320857)
Back to the TRO topic. Has the company released any statement on the ruling or their plans other than that they are pleased with the outcome? All I read is that they will allow those who were granted exemptions the opportunity to apply to other positions that don’t face the public, but nothing about when pay will be suspended or how the separation of the handful of pilots who refused to get vaccinated without an exemption will be handled.


Evidently, the unpaid leave started Friday the 12th. KA-BOOM. Yo-nited ain't messing around. Get the jab, or don't get paid. That's just the way it is. OR....OR, you can apply as a ramper until it's "safe" for you to return to your customer facing job.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...ate?yptr=yahoo

fadec 11-17-2021 01:02 AM

Sick time and its use is covered by the UPA. Making people use sick time for allergies is a contractual violation and a change to the terms of employment. That is all.

guppie 12-16-2021 11:25 AM

WINNING!!! :cool:

Kirby said about 200 employees did not comply with United's mandate and were fired of its 67,000 employees. He added about 6 pilots were fired and 80 on unpaid leave out of about 13,000.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/uni...ng-2021-12-16/

iahflyr 12-16-2021 12:14 PM

United granted around 2,000 religious and medical exemptions to employees. Kirby said about 80% of those seeking religious exemptions were granted.


2,000 is way too many exemptions. If you got fired or put on unpaid leave, you basically were not even trying.

guppie 12-16-2021 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 3336851)
United granted around 2,000 religious and medical exemptions to employees. Kirby said about 80% of those seeking religious exemptions were granted.


2,000 is way too many exemptions. If you got fired or put on unpaid leave, you basically were not even trying.


The 80 pilots on unpaid leave DID get an exemption. Unpaid leave is United's remedy for the exemptions... and that has stood in court.

"Here is your religious exemption, now go home without pay until the pandemic is over"

https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtoo...cy-upheld.aspx

ThumbsUp 12-16-2021 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by guppie (Post 3336830)
WINNING!!! :cool:

Kirby said about 200 employees did not comply with United's mandate and were fired of its 67,000 employees. He added about 6 pilots were fired and 80 on unpaid leave out of about 13,000.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/uni...ng-2021-12-16/


What is the winning part of this?


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