UAL merger intrerests?
05-16-2022, 03:56 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by AlettaOcean
Thanks for your honesty.
In a nutshell, it used to work. Now it doesn’t.
Even the biggest scumbag of a United CEO, Glenn Tilton, knew to leave it alone. Even in the darkest days of the bankruptcy, the hotel desk worked.
Along comes dumdum Jeff Smisek, and he fooked it up.
What you see today is the result: No hotels, hours long waits, and simply closing up shop/not answering the phone and letting pilots fend for themselves.
None of that existed at United prior to the merger.
Would you like to hear more?🤔
In a nutshell, it used to work. Now it doesn’t.
Even the biggest scumbag of a United CEO, Glenn Tilton, knew to leave it alone. Even in the darkest days of the bankruptcy, the hotel desk worked.
Along comes dumdum Jeff Smisek, and he fooked it up.
What you see today is the result: No hotels, hours long waits, and simply closing up shop/not answering the phone and letting pilots fend for themselves.
None of that existed at United prior to the merger.
Would you like to hear more?🤔
Have your FO wait on hold with the hotel desk while you look at local hotels that are available. Find one, and book it.
And don't forget the FAs.
05-17-2022, 06:25 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by 4andCounting
Sorry to drift off the aip topic. But I keep hearing every more frequent whispers that ual may try a takeover after a ta gets ratified. Is this just internet/crewroom banter? Or are of you united guys hearing simular stuff? The rumor mill seems to center around Alaska or JetBlue. I'm not saying I know anything. Just seeing if all the talk is based on something credible.
You just read it on APC so it’s true.
05-17-2022, 11:08 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by AlettaOcean
Thanks for your honesty.
In a nutshell, it used to work. Now it doesn’t.
Even the biggest scumbag of a United CEO, Glenn Tilton, knew to leave it alone. Even in the darkest days of the bankruptcy, the hotel desk worked.
Along comes dumdum Jeff Smisek, and he fooked it up.
What you see today is the result: No hotels, hours long waits, and simply closing up shop/not answering the phone and letting pilots fend for themselves.
None of that existed at United prior to the merger.
Would you like to hear more?🤔
In a nutshell, it used to work. Now it doesn’t.
Even the biggest scumbag of a United CEO, Glenn Tilton, knew to leave it alone. Even in the darkest days of the bankruptcy, the hotel desk worked.
Along comes dumdum Jeff Smisek, and he fooked it up.
What you see today is the result: No hotels, hours long waits, and simply closing up shop/not answering the phone and letting pilots fend for themselves.
None of that existed at United prior to the merger.
Would you like to hear more?🤔
Pulling out credit card and then expensing room: 5 minutes.
You decide….🤷🏻♂️
05-18-2022, 01:59 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
United won’t have a pilot shortage. The other airlines will though. It will be interesting in a couple years watching the LCCs and Regionals without enough pilots to fly their schedule. Alaska is already having an issue and they are a legacy airline!
05-18-2022, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Geez. Self-help.
Have your FO wait on hold with the hotel desk while you look at local hotels that are available. Find one, and book it.
And don't forget the FAs.
Have your FO wait on hold with the hotel desk while you look at local hotels that are available. Find one, and book it.
And don't forget the FAs.
2) You guys are assuming there are rooms available.
Remember the 100 pilots who had to sleep in IAH ops a few years back? Don’t you think THEY tried self help? The company fooked those guys by not buying enough hotel rooms for an anticipated/forecast weather event.
Management saves $10,000 in hotel rooms. Pilots sleep in ops. Money goes towards bonuses and stock buybacks.
That’s self help.
Last edited by AlettaOcean; 05-18-2022 at 04:13 AM.
05-18-2022, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
Waiting on the hotel desk: 1 hour
Pulling out credit card and then expensing room: 5 minutes.
You decide….🤷🏻♂️
Pulling out credit card and then expensing room: 5 minutes.
You decide….🤷🏻♂️
2) So you get to your layover hotel. The Patriots are in town. No rooms available anywhere. The hotel desk has just stolen your hotel room and given it to the crew who walked in five minutes after you got there. Hotel booked to capacity.
Pull out your credit card. How does that work out for you now?
Go.
- OR -
You get reassigned. You are now going to MIA. Spring break. You are still in EWR. Do you depart to MIA in the hopes of pulling out your card? Or do you have to make phone calls before threatening not to push?
You’re doing their job because they only have 5 hotel desk clerks for 13,000 pilots. Where did the money go?
Bonuses and buybacks. They help themselves by screwing you.
Self help isn’t always applicable. But the sycophants will always make it work, even if it means spending the night in ops.
You decide…
Last edited by AlettaOcean; 05-18-2022 at 04:20 AM.
05-18-2022, 05:31 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by AlettaOcean
You guys are assuming there are rooms available.
05-18-2022, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
There is almost ALWAYS rooms available, just not ones in the hotels the company prefers to use. At that point I will start at the top of the food chain and work my way down....Ritz Carlton, Four Seasons, and Mandarin Oriental very rarely are completely sold out.
05-18-2022, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
or get a cab or rent a car to take you where there is a hotel available. 2 hours away? Companies problem. People sleep in crew lounges because they are too lazy to do what is needed to get a room.
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