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Old 05-18-2022, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni View Post
Or they are afraid of the reimbursement process, anyone who sleeps in a crew room is a fool.
Be careful what you wish for.

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Old 05-18-2022, 10:26 AM
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Maybe we need to merge with a reimbursement/expense managing company?
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Old 05-18-2022, 10:52 AM
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There is almost ALWAYS rooms available, just not ones in the hotels the company prefers to use. At that point I will start at the top of the food chain and work my way down....Ritz Carlton, Four Seasons, and Mandarin Oriental very rarely are completely sold out.
Exactly. Hotels desk not answering? That's not a problem; it's an opportunity.
... although I use most expensive hotels whose loyalty programs I'm enrolled in. Then I get points and stay credits.

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Maybe we need to merge with a reimbursement/expense managing company?
That's funny!
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or get a cab or rent a car to take you where there is a hotel available. 2 hours away? Companies problem. People sleep in crew lounges because they are too lazy to do what is needed to get a room.
2 hours away? That’s definitely not JUST the company’s problem. It “fooks” up my NON-PAID rest period. I literally had a trip last month where the hotel desk changed our hotel but didn’t change the info on the pairing. Getting that changed was a total CLUSTER……because the hotel desk is in Mumbai now or some other spot where labor is dirt cheap. It sure as F wasn’t in Willis Tower.
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2 hours away? That’s definitely not JUST the company’s problem. It “fooks” up my NON-PAID rest period. I literally had a trip last month where the hotel desk changed our hotel but didn’t change the info on the pairing. Getting that changed was a total CLUSTER……because the hotel desk is in Mumbai now or some other spot where labor is dirt cheap. It sure as F wasn’t in Willis Tower.
why get it changed? Go to the hotel listed, if they don’t have a reservation plop down the cc for a room or go to a hotel that has room. Why pilots make this so difficult is beyond me.
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why get it changed? Go to the hotel listed, if they don’t have a reservation plop down the cc for a room or go to a hotel that has room. Why pilots make this so difficult is beyond me.
well….it’s actually the company and the transportation companies that make it difficult. The transportation company dropped us off at the Sheraton in Phoenix…..and they had our rooms ready. BUT…..our pairing said “Westin”. And the transportation guy said the pickup was at the WESTIN. I called their dispatch company…and, as I already knew, they won’t change $HIT unless United Hotel Desk sends them a fax.
I’m sure your next BRILLIANT advice is to just let all that happen..,,and have the operation fall on its face the next day. As tempting as that would be for the sake of making a point…..the point would never be realized by anybody except me and my flying partner…..who would spend the rest of the day playing catch-up and lose even MORE unpaid rest time. So yeah….the ability to contact our hotel desk and actually speak to a person who isn’t reading a script off a cue card……is important. Instead……I’m pretty sure we are actually now speaking to the call center from Slumdog Millionaire. Come fly the Chaiwalla Skies……

as a follow-up to the story…..I got the “Hotel Desk” to change the van to come pick us up at the Sheraton. Next day….van didn’t show. Called the transport company…they were at the WESTIN…..because the communication that needed to happen….didn’t happen. These people aren’t capable of acting outside of the script and what your responses to the script prompt them to do. Having an app to do this stuff ourselves would be more useful than these people. But……I bet they’re cheap. And that’s really what it all comes down to. Step over the dollar to save that dime.
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well….it’s actually the company and the transportation companies that make it difficult. The transportation company dropped us off at the Sheraton in Phoenix…..and they had our rooms ready. BUT…..our pairing said “Westin”. And the transportation guy said the pickup was at the WESTIN. I called their dispatch company…and, as I already knew, they won’t change $HIT unless United Hotel Desk sends them a fax.
I’m sure your next BRILLIANT advice is to just let all that happen..,,and have the operation fall on its face the next day. As tempting as that would be for the sake of making a point…..the point would never be realized by anybody except me and my flying partner…..who would spend the rest of the day playing catch-up and lose even MORE unpaid rest time. So yeah….the ability to contact our hotel desk and actually speak to a person who isn’t reading a script off a cue card……is important. Instead……I’m pretty sure we are actually now speaking to the call center from Slumdog Millionaire. Come fly the Chaiwalla Skies……

as a follow-up to the story…..I got the “Hotel Desk” to change the van to come pick us up at the Sheraton. Next day….van didn’t show. Called the transport company…they were at the WESTIN…..because the communication that needed to happen….didn’t happen. These people aren’t capable of acting outside of the script and what your responses to the script prompt them to do. Having an app to do this stuff ourselves would be more useful than these people. But……I bet they’re cheap. And that’s really what it all comes down to. Step over the dollar to save that dime.
did you fill out a report so the company knows what happened?
the hotel desk is in ord. They are hiring more staff, mostly because of the reports that people file showing they are understaffed.
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Old 05-18-2022, 09:36 PM
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United won’t have a pilot shortage. The other airlines will though. It will be interesting in a couple years watching the LCCs and Regionals without enough pilots to fly their schedule. Alaska is already having an issue and they are a legacy airline!
careful, legacy airline and alaska should not be In the same sentence, alaska is excellent regional airline to be at
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Originally Posted by JayAitch View Post
Why would anyone, much less United be interested in buying Alaska? Particularly with the poison pill that is Horizon in the mix?
United buys Alaska and now they suddenly have more regional lift that would integrate easily with the rest of their system. They also get back into SEA and pick up ANC as well. Getting it past the DOJ is the only sketchy part. They'd have to divest a lot of Alaska's other west coast assets and even then.... I think AA has a better chance of getting an Alaska merger past the DOJ, but securing financing to make that purchase could be tricky for them.
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Originally Posted by Andy View Post
Geez. Self-help.
Have your FO wait on hold with the hotel desk while you look at local hotels that are available. Find one, and book it.
And don't forget the FAs.
Interesting. As a newbie, I've yet to experience any hotel issues. In your scenario, is there a max dollar amount that you are allowed to spend? My wife was just in NYC for a conference. The conference ended and she decided to spend a couple more days in the city. The non-conference rate was $800/night. Would you be questioned for booking a Hilton or Marriott if that was the going rate?

Edit: I read the rest of the thread and it sounds like $800 for a Hilton or Marriott would be fine if you guys are starting with Ritz, Four Seasons, etc. Lol
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