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Old 06-17-2022 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JayAitch
What can be so big in the TA that the vacancy close was postponed for it?
Unfortunately, it probably doesn't matter any more.
The fact that they would delay a Vacancy Bid closing when they "supposedly" don't know if it will pass the MEC Vote should tell us all something.
Everything is being played to ensure a Passing Vote.

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PS) Even if it did get out to the pilot group next Friday.. what is to guarantee the pilot group would vote YES? So why would anyone bid on the current Vacancy bid based on a potential TA? They should be bidding on this Vacancy based on our current (post dated) UPA. So anyone junior bidding on a TA has guaranteed a YES vote and wonder what will happen if they get that Left Seat and then the TA fails?!

You can't make this **** up.
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Old 06-17-2022 | 03:16 PM
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I emailed my rep asking why they needed to update the UPA with all the new references when we haven’t even voted on it yet. Seems like a lot of work and it isn’t guaranteed to pass.
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Old 06-17-2022 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
Unfortunately, it probably doesn't matter any more.
The fact that they would delay a Vacancy Bid closing when they "supposedly" don't know if it will pass the MEC Vote should tell us all something.
Everything is being played to ensure a Passing Vote.

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PS) Even if it did get out to the pilot group next Friday.. what is to guarantee the pilot group would vote YES? So why would anyone bid on the current Vacancy bid based on a potential TA? They should be bidding on this Vacancy based on our current (post dated) UPA. So anyone junior bidding on a TA has guaranteed a YES vote and wonder what will happen if they get that Left Seat and then the TA fails?!

You can't make this **** up.
Good post. In my 15 years here, this is the most leverage we’ve ever had. I hope we don’t squander it.
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Old 06-17-2022 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by blizzue
I emailed my rep asking why they needed to update the UPA with all the new references when we haven’t even voted on it yet. Seems like a lot of work and it isn’t guaranteed to pass.
Maybe they are using Dominion machines?
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Old 06-17-2022 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp
Good post. In my 15 years here, this is the most leverage we’ve ever had. I hope we don’t squander it.
All the leverage for Voss water on the flight deck. Oh, and unlimited Bugles.
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Old 06-17-2022 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OffAtTango
I imagine a major change to reserve rules meaning more folks will want to bid for the widebodies. Currently 61 unfilled 777 FO slots and 37 unfilled 787 FO slots from todays snapshot.
I don’t think those are the unfilled vacancies they’re targeting…
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Old 06-18-2022 | 04:22 AM
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Unfilled captain vacancies is telling, but I think its simple. The pay is too low.
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Old 06-18-2022 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Mudge
Unfilled captain vacancies is telling, but I think its simple. The pay is too low.
Pay is just part of the problem. I can’t blame people for not wanting to commute to our reserve rules at any rate.
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Old 06-18-2022 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
Pay is just part of the problem. I can’t blame people for not wanting to commute to our reserve rules at any rate.
Everyone looks at the reserve rules when it’s most likely the commuting rules that are scaring upgrades away. Delta gets to book the jumpseat a week ahead of time and Alaska pilots commuting to work get a priority ahead of all other nonrevs. We need these types of rules.
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Old 06-18-2022 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace66
Everyone looks at the reserve rules when it’s most likely the commuting rules that are scaring upgrades away. Delta gets to book the jumpseat a week ahead of time and Alaska pilots commuting to work get a priority ahead of all other nonrevs. We need these types of rules.
100%. FedEx books jump seat 21 days prior! Theoretically, at UAL, a senior pilot going to the beach for a week can bump a junior pilot trying to commute to/from work on the jump seat. This is wrong on many levels.

But aren’t these internal issues outside of the contract? It seems like with the right leadership and resolutions at ALPA, we could stop shooting ourselves in the foot as pilots and take care of each other more.

Contractually speaking, I hope we get PS commutes and I drive to work.
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