Letter in Support of the Tentative Agreement
06-28-2022, 09:58 AM
#11
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 11,702
Look, it was a hundred year pandemic and no one knew how to handle it - least of all the fools that did handle it. We get that. There were lots of fears and a lot of uncertainty. And there is still uncertainty with oil prices and with the threat of a recession. But barring WWIII, there will be a return to normalcy long before whatever contract replaces the current one expires. One needs to look at the long picture.
And the long picture is that there has never been a time in recent history when pilot groups have been better positioned to make real gains in QOL AND pay. If people settle for this, they are condemning themselves to a decade of less than the contract they could have had. Consider that when you vote.
And the long picture is that there has never been a time in recent history when pilot groups have been better positioned to make real gains in QOL AND pay. If people settle for this, they are condemning themselves to a decade of less than the contract they could have had. Consider that when you vote.
06-28-2022, 10:03 AM
#12
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2020
Posts: 62
-How many airline contracts have ever been done by the Amendable Date or early?
-What's the average time past the Amendable Date it's taken to get a new contract?
This is NOT a 2 year contract. Vote Yes, and you're going to be living under it for many more years, and some things (Reserve changes) you're never going to get back.
-What's the average time past the Amendable Date it's taken to get a new contract?
This is NOT a 2 year contract. Vote Yes, and you're going to be living under it for many more years, and some things (Reserve changes) you're never going to get back.
06-28-2022, 10:04 AM
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,197
Has anybody received a definitive answer as to why the vote closes just before the Q2 results?
Seems like it would have been win/win to have the voting close after the results announced. If the company hits it out of the park with Q2 numbers...then prolly more money on the table so reattack. If the numbers are poor.... you still have a TA(wouldn't/couldn't be pulled by mgt) and peeps could use that added data point to refine their vote.
Anybody?
Seems like it would have been win/win to have the voting close after the results announced. If the company hits it out of the park with Q2 numbers...then prolly more money on the table so reattack. If the numbers are poor.... you still have a TA(wouldn't/couldn't be pulled by mgt) and peeps could use that added data point to refine their vote.
Anybody?
06-28-2022, 10:07 AM
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Position: 737 A
Posts: 926
Sorry to be posting on your forum, but I can’t help it. I like many around the industry are watching the UAL TA closely.
“A Word on No Votes”. Scare tactics should never be a reason to support a yes vote. I’ll go back to polishing brass and keeping a close watch on guard.
“A Word on No Votes”. Scare tactics should never be a reason to support a yes vote. I’ll go back to polishing brass and keeping a close watch on guard.
06-28-2022, 11:36 AM
#17
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: Retired from UAL
Posts: 175
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Has anybody received a definitive answer as to why the vote closes just before the Q2 results?
Seems like it would have been win/win to have the voting close after the results announced. If the company hits it out of the park with Q2 numbers...then prolly more money on the table so reattack. If the numbers are poor.... you still have a TA(wouldn't/couldn't be pulled by mgt) and peeps could use that added data point to refine their vote.
Anybody?
Seems like it would have been win/win to have the voting close after the results announced. If the company hits it out of the park with Q2 numbers...then prolly more money on the table so reattack. If the numbers are poor.... you still have a TA(wouldn't/couldn't be pulled by mgt) and peeps could use that added data point to refine their vote.
Anybody?
06-28-2022, 11:56 AM
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,197
Originally Posted by jtbost
i suspect management is leaning on these guys hard to close the vote before the Q results.
Personally, I think there has to be some other logical explanation (but what do I know). The vote deadline /Q2 results timeline is a conundrum for me.
06-28-2022, 02:49 PM
#19
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 963
Originally Posted by AlettaOcean
Are they furloughing 4000+ again?
Voting YES in case of a recession could backfire if said recession actually happens. This TA makes furlough much cheaper and easier for the company.
06-28-2022, 02:57 PM
#20
weekends off? Nope...
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,967
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Has anybody received a definitive answer as to why the vote closes just before the Q2 results?
Anybody?
Anybody?
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