Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp

I asked my rep this question and he says he didn’t think the results would change the mind of a yes or no voter. SMH

Originally Posted by NuGuy

That is a typical mis-understanding of the NWA route system in the Pacific. Due to their 5th freedom rights, NWA could act as a Japanese carrier and carry originating traffic, both passengers and cargo, out of Japan to a non-US destination, the same as JAL or ANA could. There was even some domestic Japanese flying in the mix, such as Narita - Osaka. Sure, there was a lot of connecting traffic through NRT, but the local traffic was a substantial amount of O/D haul to/from Tokyo to everywhere in the Pacific network.

Several things combined to put a cork in it. As you point out above, the ability to do point to point started to peel off some of the connecting traffic, but that was only a part of the problem. Asian discount carriers got started, and that nibbled away at the O/D market. Cargo cabotage through Alaska didn't help the cargo side of things. The swap to HND pulled out the business travelers going to Tokyo. Last but not least, the Japanese were tired of the whole deal, as I imagine we would be if JAL was flying from SFO to SEA, and that brought them into conflict with the then CEO. Bad combination of factors, but the point is that overflight thing is often stated, but probably played the least role.

Originally Posted by awax

What’s long and black and hangs in front of an a-hole?

….A Delta pilot’s tie.

Originally Posted by Buck Rogers

Thank you. Am I maybe missing the mark. If I were a fence sitter or leaning YES to the TA....If the Q2 results were as expected ... "exceptional....best ever", that would certainly change MY mind. Am I that far off the mark or seeking confirmation bias that the Q2 results are germane to "middle of the roaders"? At least enough for a "swing margin"? I would have thought more information was better. It's not like the company can pull the TA in the middle of voting. Q2 results would have provided more information/data that would have been beneficial to a fair number of pilots. JMHO

Originally Posted by baseball

That's not cool I rely on Delta to get to work They got great folks over there too.

Sorry about that Delta. We got our share of jerks, just like ya'll do.

Originally Posted by LJ Driver

AGREED.

On more than one occasion I’ve had a Delta pilot take the FA jump seat so I can take the cockpit and get a ride. Incredibly thoughtful and very appreciated. Even their FAs are super nice to me. I really hope we are returning the favor as much as possible.