Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 3454197)

I agree with almost everything that you said. I would add that the min day should go up (Delta’s is 5:15/day average). Our five hours has been stagnant since the JCBA at least. Reserves shouldn’t have a blanket guarantee. That guarantee should be divided into credit per day, and a reserve pilot should accrue that credit per day or a trip whichever is greater.

As for the before 10:00 thing…. If the Company wants it so bad, then pony up!!! Give the reserve pilot a choice. Either take the add pay, or if you commute, then you get POS and a hotel.

Originally Posted by A320fumes (Post 3454346)

Careful about negotiating specifics on this board.

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Originally Posted by A320fumes (Post 3454346)

Careful about negotiating specifics on this board.


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Originally Posted by A320fumes (Post 3454346)

Careful about negotiating specifics on this board.


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Originally Posted by StewBlu (Post 3453453)

I don’t disagree entirely that some of these folks are out of touch. However, we have to be careful about losing the institutional knowledge that they have as a consequence of being in their roles for as long as they have.

Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 3454427)

Seriously?

Originally Posted by A320fumes (Post 3454436)

Absolutely. In this thread I’ve seen several very specific wants noted. You never want them to know your specific price. The overall dissatisfaction is healthy, but be cautious/quiet about your specific wants…


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Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 3454272)

So here’s an interesting tidbit from the past when DeltaS had their TA in 2015 that failed.

DELTA TA – The DAL MEC accepted a tentative agreement (TA) by a senatorial vote of 11-8. The TA is now out for DAL membership ratification. Voting ends and the results will be disclosed on July 10.



After weighing the pros and cons of the TA, it is difficult to say if it actually moves the bar any higher. Instead, a compelling argument can be made that the bar will be lowered because the TA is rife with concessions in quality of life (QOL), healthcare, and possibly even job security. It might be a reasonable agreement if just the profit sharing formula was traded for higher hourly rates, but it is self-evident that far more than that was sold.



During this time of unprecedented airline profitability, it is puzzling why the DAL MEC opened early to only settle for a cost-neutral contract at best. There are valid arguments about the time value of money. However, these can be countered with equally valid arguments on the value of job security and QOL. The UAL MEC aims to get a briefing from the DAL Negotiating Committee if the TA passes membership ratification.

This is what our MEC Vice-Chairman said, when he was the Council 34 Vice-Chairman.