Originally Posted by Airhoss

TK rumors are all solid gold, as trustworthy as a used car salesman running for congress.

Originally Posted by iahflyr

The only reason Boeing is in business is because they produce airplanes that their customers want and choose to buy. Otherwise Boeing wouldn’t be in business.

What do airlines want? The cheapest airplane that can safely accomplish the mission, commonality for crew training, and commonality for maintenance. That translates to a stretch of a current airplane (lower development costs, no additional crew training, and extremely little maintenance changes).

If airlines wanted to pay more money for a clean sheet design airplane with the performance of a 757, Boeing would build it. But airlines do not want that. Airlines want an airplane that can haul 200 pax from coast to coast as cheaply as possible.

Boeing is only in business because they produce jets that their customers want. The airlines are asking for the Max. Next time you get mad about the Max 10, blame United and the other customers (Southwest) for what they are asking Boeing to create.

Originally Posted by PT6A67B

Not only did it backfire, but it backfired in the most obvious and foreseeable way. Bombardier was all-in with the C-Series program. Everyone knew it, it was in the newspaper everyday. They weren’t just going to declare bankruptcy and quit. So they cut their losses and sold the program to one of only two companies in the world that would want it and could afford it. The one that hadn’t just sued them. Boeing gift wrapped a new and finished airplane for Airbus, monumentally stupid. And I hope United buys a bunch of the A220.

Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

I see you have no idea how chess is played. That was a move to keep China from getting in in the CS100. AB getting it was that plan all along. Chess is a long game. Sometimes you look like you are losing.

Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

it didn’t backfire, it was the plan all along. Sorry if the media didn’t explain it to you well enough. Neither AB or Boeing want Chia in the airplane building business. Boeing did not rush to try and buy Embraer. That plan was in the works all along COVID and the MAX grounding delayed it. The A220 isn’t exactly writing checks for AB. That program is still losing money only the A380 is worse and getting worse. The A380s will all be gone in 10 years and that is going to hurt. OEMs don’t make money selling aircraft. They make the money taking care of them for 20+ years.

once again chess is a long game.

Originally Posted by BurritoBeach

AMEN! I just finished CQ and the instructor told us the plan is to keep the fleet around until the end of the decade now. He said that includes the 757-200 since there are still missions where it can't be replaced. Take the TK rumor rumor with a pinch off salt but I sure hope he was correct!

Originally Posted by PNWFlyer;[url=tel:3458711

3458711[/url]]it didn’t backfire, it was the plan all along. Sorry if the media didn’t explain it to you well enough. Neither AB or Boeing want Chia in the airplane building business. Boeing did not rush to try and buy Embraer. That plan was in the works all along COVID and the MAX grounding delayed it. The A220 isn’t exactly writing checks for AB. That program is still losing money only the A380 is worse and getting worse. The A380s will all be gone in 10 years and that is going to hurt. OEMs don’t make money selling aircraft. They make the money taking care of them for 20+ years.

once again chess is a long game.

Originally Posted by Grumble

I must have missed all the Chinese interest in the 220, the airlines lining up to buy it and the investment in it being built.

Boeing is a dumpster fire and AB is eating them alive.

Originally Posted by threeighteen

same. it's amazing to see the lies being invented in this thread to defend Boeing's epic failures.