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Wilfortina 08-25-2022 06:27 PM

I’m a little confused. I have never looked up someone else’s calendar and don’t know why I would. Am I missing something?

TodKindrsChikun 08-26-2022 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by Wilfortina (Post 3483812)
I’m a little confused. I have never looked up someone else’s calendar and don’t know why I would. Am I missing something?

Someone junior to you gets a trip that you were trying to pick up. By blocking their calendar you’re prevented from seeing their schedule history. This shows the time stamp of when the trip was picked up, details of the transaction, and if a scheduler was involved.

Transparency is the best disinfectant.

A320fumes 08-26-2022 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by Wilfortina (Post 3483812)
I’m a little confused. I have never looked up someone else’s calendar and don’t know why I would. Am I missing something?


There is absolutely no reason for checking, or the desire to check another Pilot’s schedule. Unfortunately, some guys just can’t help themselves. I’ve had to defend at least a dozen Pilots, and Union volunteers, who have used access to another Pilots’s schedule for nefarious, and somewhat immoral purposes.
99% of the Pilots access each other’s schedules with no I’ll intent. But the 1% who do have an axe to grind really screw the poocha d cause bug problems . Not a hill that I’m willing to die on either way; just not worth the risks imho.


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TodKindrsChikun 08-26-2022 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by A320fumes (Post 3483936)
There is absolutely no reason for checking, or the desire to check another Pilot’s schedule. Unfortunately, some guys just can’t help themselves. I’ve had to defend at least a dozen Pilots, and Union volunteers, who have used access to another Pilots’s schedule for nefarious, and somewhat immoral purposes.
99% of the Pilots access each other’s schedules with no I’ll intent. But the 1% who do have an axe to grind really screw the poocha d cause bug problems . Not a hill that I’m willing to die on either way; just not worth the risks imho.


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I completely disagree. There is nothing about nefarious about schedule integrity and a transparent process. The airline I was mentored under all had our schedules unlocked for the reasons I outlined in my previous post. Those that blocked their schedules were either Scabs, gaming the system, or for specific personal reasons.

Your argument against transparency harms 14000 pilots because of 12 who one way or another would find a way to get in trouble.

A320fumes 08-26-2022 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun (Post 3483947)
I completely disagree. There is nothing about nefarious about schedule integrity and a transparent process. The airline I was mentored under all had our schedules unlocked for the reasons I outlined in my previous post. Those that blocked their schedules were either Scabs, gaming the system, or for specific personal reasons.

Your argument against transparency harms 14000 pilots because of 12 who one way or another would find a way to get in trouble.


As stated, not a hill I’m willing to die on. I would caution against classifying everyone who disagrees with you as a scab. It devalues the term.


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scns77 08-26-2022 04:47 AM

or for specific personal reasons.

"Nuff said" I don't need to give any other reason to anyone

TodKindrsChikun 08-26-2022 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by A320fumes (Post 3483952)
As stated, not a hill I’m willing to die on. I would caution against classifying everyone who disagrees with you as a scab. It devalues the term.


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Oh for god’s sake. Please stop putting words in my mouth for the benefit of your weak argument. I classify someone a scab because they actually scabbed. We played in different sandbox’s and I was mentored a wee bit differently.

In no way will someone get in trouble for calling out an illegal crew desk assignment for which you should be compensated. Transparency allows that determination. Nefarious or immoral? Give me a break.

A320fumes 08-26-2022 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun (Post 3483962)
Oh for god’s sake. Please stop putting words in my mouth for the benefit of your weak argument. I classify someone a scab because they actually scabbed. We played in different sandbox’s and I was mentored a wee bit differently.

In no way will someone get in trouble for calling out an illegal crew desk assignment for which you should be compensated. Transparency allows that determination. Nefarious or immoral? Give me a break.


My apologies, but the United MEC does have a history of redefining the term “scab” when it has suited their purposes. And you’re right, I was mentored at the USAIRWAYS MEC, a zero-scab environment, so it was 8 years into my career before I ever flew with one, outside the military.

In all honesty, this just seems like something that you’re more passionate about than me. We probably agree on most of the issues, this has just never been a priority to me; in that we differ. Godspeed


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fishforfun 08-26-2022 05:22 AM

Just for something to think about, we at DAL don’t have an option to “block” our schedule and I hope we never do. We can see who viewed our schedule and when. There is nothing private or personal that can be seen. It’s been helpful in answering “why did I get this trip and this guy didn’t” or “why did he get this and I didn’t.”

TodKindrsChikun 08-26-2022 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by A320fumes (Post 3483965)
My apologies, but the United MEC does have a history of redefining the term “scab” when it has suited their purposes. And you’re right, I was mentored at the USAIRWAYS MEC, a zero-scab environment, so it was 8 years into my career before I ever flew with one, outside the military.

In all honesty, this just seems like something that you’re more passionate about than me. We probably agree on most of the issues, this has just never been a priority to me; in that we differ. Godspeed


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Redefining? Yeah Ok. Passionate about open calendars? Somewhat for scheduling transparency. What I’m really passionate about is people putting words in my mouth.

Yes, there are some things here and away from United that we do completely agree upon.


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