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rvfanatic 08-29-2022 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 3485645)
Yep, every calendar is published in PBS - free for download AND every open trip is available in CCS. It’s easy to see what every pilot on the property is awarded by BES. This IS a total non-issue.

As for not getting the contract, the NC had a lot to do with that.

We aren’t cohesive as a group. FedEx has been in contact negotiations far less time than we have and they aren’t picking up open time because of negotiations. Ask your friends. Conversely, PP works so well here that SK himself is talking about how it’s at 20% of the trips covered and he wants to reduce it.

jdavk 08-29-2022 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3485942)
FedEx has been in contact negotiations far less time than we have and they aren’t picking up open time because of negotiations.

Which happens to be a huge Status Quo violation. Just sayin’.

TodKindrsChikun 08-29-2022 11:03 AM

So from some who have posted, United pilots are robbers, rapists, child molesters, pimps, sociopaths and stalkers. They quickly go nuclear running the risks of losing their career. They haven’t a clue what they are doing and thereby burden the PDR folks who are essentially carrying the donkeys up the hill. Oh yeah, why waste time when we have an industry leading contract to achieve? You can easily get the info off the PBS awards if not dozens of other ways.(which by the way if one does not quickly change their trips, the aforementioned pilots will quickly have knowledge of your whereabouts). Pilots are just conspiracy theorists when there really isn’t a problem.

To think I just wanted access to the Schedule History (could care less about the calendar) which has all the transparency needed. Time, code, date, scheduler or method, and trip. One only needs to make a polite and professional call to the a crew desk supervisor and or file a PDR with the information acquired from the Schedule History.

It never happens they say. It’s happened to me twice written recent memory. In both cases it wasn’t the fault of the pilot. Transparency not only assists in the errors being corrected but provides for a system that abides by the contract.

Setopbug 08-29-2022 04:08 PM

I never even knew this was an issue.

Given the entitled, angry and insulting screeds I just read, I’ve gone into CCS and opted out.

My schedule is none of your damn business.

Flight Qualified Managers, LCAs, IE’s and the nice support folks that work at your base all have access to your schedule and calendar.

Those are the only folks I could imagine having a valid reason to have access to your information.

The fact that they can get into disciplinary trouble for using that access for anything other than official business should tell you all you need to know about your imagined rights or needs to stuff that doesn’t concern you.

Don’t like it? Negotiate a change.

fishforfun 08-29-2022 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by HiPlaneDrifter (Post 3485597)
I’ve been around long enough to see other union brothers be convicted of rape, murder, incest, running ***** houses, etc. Advertising your schedule to people you don’t know is foolish. I also don’t leave a sign in my yard saying I’m out of town.

And yet 14,000 delta pilots manage just fine with full access. You guys might need a break from the sewing circles.

A320fumes 08-30-2022 01:32 AM

Blocked Calendars
 

Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3486493)
And yet 14,000 delta pilots manage just fine with full access. You guys might need a break from the sewing circles.


Actually, the United system is far more informative and transparent than Delta’s; as per debates at ALPA BoD. That particular function, Pilot;s Master Schedule, is pretty much useless for trip tracking. Only useful to spy and nefarious purposes. Unblocking only provides a method of prying and schedule voyeurism.


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sailingfun 08-30-2022 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by A320fumes (Post 3486527)
Actually, the United system is far more informative and transparent than Delta’s; as per debates at ALPA BoD. That particular function, Pilot;s Master Schedule, is pretty much useless for trip tracking. Only useful to spy and nefarious purposes. Unblocking only provides a method of prying and schedule voyeurism.


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As mentioned you can’t block your schedule at Delta. Without the ability to view other pilots schedules it can be difficult to verify if a trip award was properly made both for reserve and line holders. This went to arbitration and he ruled in favor of the unions efforts to keep schedules unblocked for the above reason.

A320fumes 08-30-2022 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3486538)
As mentioned you can’t block your schedule at Delta. Without the ability to view other pilots schedules it can be difficult to verify if a trip award was properly made both for reserve and line holders. This went to arbitration and he ruled in favor of the unions efforts to keep schedules unblocked for the above reason.


I don’t think the Delta pilots on this thread understand. The issue is whether you can block one particular page called a “master schedule”. If one elects to block said master, it does not remove that Pilot’s footprint from any other, more useful, page; only that one page. In short, the master schedule is very elementary when one considers the other plethora of information that United Pilots have at their fingertips.

We have had very involved discussion about the blocking issue at BoD. While Delta’s schedule provides more info than U item’s master schedule, United has a lot more sources, and many more electronic vehicles to track trips and assure transparency.

IMHO, the United master schedule is the weakest tool in the draw when it comes down to transparency. It’s simply voyeurism. So much more information is available through our system. And as stated, it’s only that one page. Blocking will not remove a Pilot from any of the other more robust methods of assuring transparency.


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TodKindrsChikun 08-30-2022 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by A320fumes (Post 3486615)
I don’t think the Delta pilots on this thread understand. The issue is whether you can block one particular page called a “master schedule”. If one elects to block said master, it does not remove that Pilot’s footprint from any other, more useful, page; only that one page. In short, the master schedule is very elementary when one considers the other plethora of information that United Pilots have at their fingertips.

We have had very involved discussion about the blocking issue at BoD. While Delta’s schedule provides more info than U item’s master schedule, United has a lot more sources, and many more electronic vehicles to track trips and assure transparency.

IMHO, the United master schedule is the weakest tool in the draw when it comes down to transparency. It’s simply voyeurism. So much more information is available through our system. And as stated, it’s only that one page. Blocking will not remove a Pilot from any of the other more robust methods of assuring transparency.


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Just to be clear we AREN’T talking about the Master Schedule. Never let the facts get interjected with the voyeuristic argument you insist on making and the extent you and others will go to vilify this pilot group.

A320fumes 08-30-2022 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun (Post 3486656)
Just to be clear we AREN’T talking about the Master Schedule. Never let the facts get interjected with the voyeuristic argument you insist on making and the extent you and others will go to vilify this pilot group.


That’s ridiculous


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