Zero chance a line pilot was at those controls . I would bet it was a MX function . Who would subject them selves to that esp if it was a push back screw up .

Story I heard was it was an error and a mechanical failure during pushback. Ended up breaking away from the tug somehow and rolled onto the grass after a deep push. No clue who was setting toga to try and get out.

https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20190615-0

“Lost.”

Never should’ve had it in the first place.

Anyone can make a mistake . You weren’t there , you don’t know exactly what happened. But I suppose you never made a mistake . When you get a second, could you turn this water into wine , feed the multitude with a loaf of bread and heal the sick ? Walk across Lake Michigan while you’re at it , oh perfect one .
All of the LCAs at UA that I have flown with so far have been excellent. I learned a lot from each one . I know LCAs train for that sort of thing but anything can happen to anyone at anytime. Doesn’t mean you’re not qualified to be in that position.

I agree with you but in that situation there is more to the story. I believe there is a lawsuit that she didn't recieve proper LCA training. A lot of finger pointing.

It also raises big questions with our TA1 ... we are doubling the number of instructors and check airman by throwing money at them. Are we going to keep that same level of instructor or check airman going forward? The instructors are already pulling down big money and the pool of good people that want to do that are doing it. I fear we are pulling in mediocre to bad instructors who are there for the paycheck. Could we be pulling in better people from other bases if you improve job share or month to month options or qol improvements? I don't know but the people that are good at that type of thing aren't very plentiful.

Two sides to every story, indeed. I went through a lot of schools during my time and most were excellent LCA.s. Two, however, were not. One was only an LCA only because he wanted the commuter benefits that come along with the job. I learned more from the bunkie on that trip than I did from the captain. Another was more interested in the prestige that comes along with that "fifth stripe" and was a bit of a control freak. Outliers both, but they are out there. Just because you haven't had the experience doesn't mean they're not out there. Just like Chief Pilots.

I know exactly what happened, as well as the circumstances before and after with said LCA. Won’t post on a public forum.

I wonder what this place is going to look like in 10 years. Heck, 5 years. Good post.

The FO on the flight told me what happened, a few days later at the schoolhouse. He was a new hire, as I recall. The Check airman was new and described to me as a AAA pilot.

The narrative in the NTSB report differs substantially from what the FO told me.

Part of the reason for this was the stupid upset recovery technique being trained at the time.