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Old 02-19-2023, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal View Post
Read LOA 12-03. It tells you EXACTLY how it works. it's not magic, it's not some weird algorithm that no one knows about, it's not rules made up by scheduling despite what many will tell you. It is black and white, and coded into CC/CCS
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Forgive my lack of recollection as to which thread it was on but I believe someone had said that it's possible to have a QOL that's as good if not better than the LCC's if you learn to work the system at UAL. By "QOL" I'm strictly referring to schedule flexibility and ability to rearrange or get rid of trips. For example, say I'm a line holder on 737 IAH base and have a family event on a given weekend. I was awarded a 3-day starting Friday and would really like to get that specific Saturday off. I've read about things like criteria trades and "bad day/worse day" but I don't quite understand how it works. Obviously everything improves with seniority, I'm just trying to get an idea of what life on the line looks like in the earlier stages. Thanks all!
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Bad/day worse day means that if you are trading into a trip where the sum of the reserve coverage is worse than the sum of the days' reserve coverage that you are trading out of, it will be awarded (seniority allowing) regardless of the footprint. For instance, let's say that there is a 1-day in the near future with -8 reserve coverage on that day. You have a 3-day later in the month on the weekend with coverages of -2/+1/0 (net -1). You could trade out that 3-day for that 1-day. It is about the only flexible aspect of our scheduling. Straight drops on NB fleets are very difficult as scheduling has complete reign over the amount of reserve coverage required on a given day. 1-days are sometimes doable, but if you bid multi-day trips, it's generally not happening.

That being said, I use the BD/WD every month other than vacation months. I'm going on about a year of flying less than 10 days a month, so it does work. Not sure how easy it would be as a new hire, though at the bottom of the trade stack.
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Old 02-19-2023, 01:29 PM
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I haven’t been able to trade or drop a trip since last October.

Every bid is the same: 86-89 hours and 14 days off. Every day of the month is red with -5, -10 reserves.
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Old 02-19-2023, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by snackysmores View Post
I haven’t been able to trade or drop a trip since last October.

Every bid is the same: 86-89 hours and 14 days off. Every day of the month is red with -5, -10 reserves.
Base airplane and how long have you been here. Just asking but is this really not a prime concern for pilots at ual. That being qol and time off / trip flexibility ?
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Base airplane and how long have you been here. Just asking but is this really not a prime concern for pilots at ual. That being qol and time off / trip flexibility ?

the arbitrary reserve limit (set by scheduling) is a QOL killer. I can’t remember the last time I saw a green day on the 73.
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Old 02-19-2023, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot View Post
LAS Captain AND FO both had unfileld vacancies. Which means anyone can bid either one. Expect LAS to end up being twice as bid as it is now in a few years as we have to put the 450 new 737s we have on order somewhere and they aren’t going to fit into the current hubs.

I’d also expect to see PHX, SEA, MIA/FLL, BOS bases in the next 2 years as well. BOS is even likely to be an Airbus base as Kirby wants to take over a bunch of BOS-EUR flying with the 321 XLRs.
Can anyone else comment on the likelihood of a BOS base? DAL has been all show no go with that one for a few years now.
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Old 02-19-2023, 03:46 PM
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DAL has been all show no go with that one for a few years now.
All show and no go? That’s our shtick!

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Old 02-19-2023, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chanandlerbong View Post
Can anyone else comment on the likelihood of a BOS base? DAL has been all show no go with that one for a few years now.

1.67% depending on how many slots Jetblue/NEA have to divest.
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Old 02-20-2023, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JTwift View Post
the arbitrary reserve limit (set by scheduling) is a QOL killer. I can’t remember the last time I saw a green day on the 73.

So is anyone talking about this in negotiations? on the line or ?
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Old 02-20-2023, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Swindler128 View Post
So is anyone talking about this in negotiations? on the line or ?
I think the only people who know what’s being talked about in negotiations are the negotiators.


Just looking at Feb right now (a month where some bases were offered COLA), IAH, ORD, and EWR have every single day red for reserve coverage on both 737 and 320.
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Old 02-20-2023, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal View Post
Read LOA 12-03. It tells you EXACTLY how it works. it's not magic, it's not some weird algorithm that no one knows about, it's not rules made up by scheduling despite what many will tell you. It is black and white, and coded into CC/CCS
Read LOA 12-03 Section 4 Paragraph a. Minimum reserve is set unilaterally by "the Company." In my "category"... and this goes through two different fleets for the entire time we've been on PBS, days below minimum reserves required are few and far between. Typically, there are over twice as many minimum reserves required as departures in my current BES which is understandable to a degree because the trips are typically 3-4 and can be as long as six days... but the company takes it to a ridiculous level... because it can. Every EWR category has the same issue to a degree and I'll bet it's the norm, not exception throughout the system. So yeah, when it comes to min reserves required, which is a key element in flexibility, the company has total control to arbitrarily set the level and no reason I can think of to lower it. If someone has a reference saying otherwise, I'd love to see it.
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