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Grumble 10-14-2022 06:54 PM

Close to half the pilots voted against the Pandemic LOA too.

The Toddler sycophants are coming out of the woodwork.


Tumi TA was going so poorly they wouldn’t even let us see the final vote.

Aquaticus 10-14-2022 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Knotcher (Post 3512708)
Yes she did vote against the Pandemic LOA. You say that like it’s a bad thing.

She didn't carry herself with dignity on the other forum. She kept rabidly posting half truths and misinformation about the loa in between attacking peoples character if they didn't agree with her. I don't think anyone could read those threads and have a good feeling about her representing a rational argument. That LOA had good and bad and you could or should be able to see both sides. It ended up saving a lot of us a displacement, training cycle, and economic uncertainty.

dmeg13021 10-14-2022 07:30 PM

It certainly saved the company a lot of displacements, training cycles, and economic uncertainty. And now goose can blame a pilot for not trying to save his job. Bravo.

i certainly don’t agree with everything she’s said, but here’s another fun AW fact:

She was elected after the Pandemic LOA vote.

SeamusTheHound 10-15-2022 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3512573)
AW Facts:

Should be recalled immediately.

-Unethical
-Saving the junior pilots is not her job….it literally is
-representation is selfish
-motivated by power and self interest
​​​​​​-lies
-grossly misunderstands contract language
​​​​​​-political theater
-false accusations
-childish
​​​​​-inappropriate drama
-manufactures crisis
-hides in a cloak of lies
-remains silent in critical moments and discussions
-does not represent the junior pilots
-only cares about her paycheck not her constituents
-voted against job saving loa

but but she voted no on the latest TA

anyone can vote no, it takes a good person to represent her pilots within her committee. Her interests of her own accord

watch out

That’s a solidly-supported list of unassailable facts you got going there.
:eek:

TodKindrsChikun 10-15-2022 03:56 AM

There will always be varying opinions within the pilot group. Imho, this chasm we find ourselves in is what you get under 6 years of TI who didn’t take into account the best interests of the pilot group as a whole but sought short sighted carve outs and side deals that promoted his own vision. We desperately need a strong MEC Chairman who can bring this pilot group together and work solely on our collective interests.

Aquaticus 10-15-2022 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by dmeg13021 (Post 3512814)
It certainly saved the company a lot of displacements, training cycles, and economic uncertainty. And now goose can blame a pilot for not trying to save his job. Bravo.

i certainly don’t agree with everything she’s said, but here’s another fun AW fact:

She was elected after the Pandemic LOA vote.

Just like you are spinning the reality of the loa she wasn't "trying to save his job" but was actively campaigning for him to be on the street. There are a million good arguments against the loa that were factual but instead she manufactured outrage and created a platform of ignorance which she ran on.

TodKindrsChikun 10-15-2022 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 3512989)
Just like you are spinning the reality of the loa she wasn't "trying to save his job" but was actively campaigning for him to be on the street. There are a million good arguments against the loa that were factual but instead she manufactured outrage and created a platform of ignorance which she ran on.

Utter garbage. She was not campaigning for people to be on the street. No one wanted that.

This is what you get under autocratic leadership when an LOA is crammed down our throats and you’re told if you vote against it you’re responsible for pilot suicides. An divisive LOA riddled with promises, gives and gutting the third rail of our contract, MPG.

dmeg13021 10-15-2022 08:10 AM

TA1 was the inevitable “hold my beer” result of the LOA and an NC that had zero connectivity with line pilots but instead worked creatively to get us to vote for company wants. That is, those few times it actually went to a vote.

Aquaticus 10-15-2022 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun (Post 3513001)
Utter garbage. She was not campaigning for people to be on the street. No one wanted that.

This is what you get under autocratic leadership when an LOA is crammed down our throats and you’re told if you vote against it you’re responsible for pilot suicides. An divisive LOA riddled with promises, gives and gutting the third rail of our contract, MPG.

If it is so bad why would she need to lie about the contents of the loa, use ad hominem attacks against anyone who told her she wasn't understanding the loa, and creating conspiracy theory "what if" scenarios that were already negated by the TA. If you want to hate the LOA there are reasonable arguments to do so but she didn't do that. She embarrassed herself and the pilot group and obviously has no place representing us.

ugleeual 10-15-2022 03:15 PM

Being Furloughed is a big part of the “right of passage” as an airline pilot… eat the young and use the extra pot of $$$ to fly up to 100 hours every 30 days. 🤮

What we really need is hard monthly pay caps in the next UPA whenever pilots are furloughed… using the honor system is a joke with pilots who are on their third divorce or have a hangar full of planes and need 90+ hours each month to live paycheck to paycheck.


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