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Guppydriver95 10-17-2022 06:12 AM
Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 3513908)
The last six years of rampant abuse of power and corruption is unprecedented as is the wave of recalls. The line pilots obviously get it.
Yes we do. What should be crystal clear to anyone here is that this is a hit piece, and nothing more. Turn down the noise and ask yourself, do you REALLY think that a rep WANTS pilots to be furloughed? If so, the lug head that started the thread is correct. If you think that perhaps there are many valid reasons to oppose the TA, like nearly half of the pilot group did, then maybe, just maybe, this thread is a desperate hit job by someone who sees the writing on the wall for Insler and his pals? Stew on it for a minute. It’s pretty obvious for anyone paying attention.

AxlF16 10-17-2022 06:18 AM
Originally Posted by rekatron (Post 3513521)
I rarely comment about this type of stuff, but one thing I've noticed is that as a younger post merger hire, it always seems like the company has its stuff together and the union is a never ending **** show dumpster fire. And with all the politicking going on right now, I can't imagine new guys have a lot of faith in their representation.

With the company rapidly turning over its seniority list, the young dudes are going to reach critical mass in short order, and I have to imagine the distaste in how everyone has handled themselves this year will have a powerful impact on future votes.
just wait - you ain't seen 'nuthin yet!

jerryleber 10-17-2022 06:34 AM
Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 3513945)
I REALLY thought that Insler would force positive change based on his performance as grievance chair. Nope. As far as I am concerned, UA-ALPA has been all downhill since that day in SFO. But insler has tilted the board solidly in UA's favor. He has fractured the group and lowered expectations. You guys have a LOT of work ahead of you. But it's nice to see the revolt. TumiTA was an abomination.
Pretty good synopsis.

Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3513951)
just wait - you ain't seen 'nuthin yet!
Apparently pilots have seen enough if the wave of recalls is any indication.

Spoilers Deploy 10-17-2022 06:47 AM
Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 3513965)
Pretty good synopsis.

Apparently pilots have seen enough if the wave of recalls is any indication.
The waves off recalls are based upon pilots' wallet. The TA failed. Your Camp always votes no, and finally ya'll got lucky. That is all. Now you want everyone to think you are the smarted guy in the room because of your David Spade Capitol One NO act. please.

jerryleber 10-17-2022 06:49 AM
Originally Posted by Spoilers Deploy (Post 3513971)
Now you want everyone to think you are the smarted guy in the room...
Huh? Poor SD aka JM.

Spoilers Deploy 10-17-2022 06:52 AM
Jerry,

its interesting how you think calling me out means something. Irrelevant.

The political hit job you guys manufactured last night isn't going well on other forums.

jerryleber 10-17-2022 06:59 AM
Pilots are rightfully repulsed by so-called union representatives turning in line pilots to the company. It is the ultimate betrayal and antithetical to what a rep is supposed to do. This is commonplace for Todd and the Toddlers. Unfortunately, HR makes it very difficult to shine the light on this completely anti-union behavior.

For those who don't want to be bothered with all the details of the corruption all you need to do is look at TA1, the sales job of it, the unprecedented extension of the voting, the shenanigans at LEC reps and the ALPA Int'l VP of Admin making recall efforts as difficult as possible and NONE of our so-called reps resigning. It is unprecedented as is the wave of recalls. The line pilots obviously get it.

Sniper66 10-17-2022 07:03 AM
Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 3513991)
Pilots are rightfully repulsed by so-called union representatives turning in line pilots to the company. It is the ultimate betrayal and antithetical to what a rep is supposed to do. This is commonplace for Todd and the Toddlers. Unfortunately, HR makes it very difficult to shine the light on this completely anti-union behavior.

For those who don't want to be bothered with all the details of the corruption all you need to do is look at TA1, the sales job of it, the unprecedented extension of the voting, the shenanigans at LEC reps and the ALPA Int'l VP of Admin making recall efforts as difficult as possible and NONE of our so-called reps resigning. It is unprecedented as is the wave of recalls. The line pilots obviously get it.


if that’s true
section 8 is a must

Spoilers Deploy 10-17-2022 07:07 AM
Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 3513991)
Pilots are rightfully repulsed by so-called union representatives turning in line pilots to the company. It is the ultimate betrayal and antithetical to what a rep is supposed to do. This is commonplace for Todd and the Toddlers. Unfortunately, HR makes it very difficult to shine the light on this completely anti-union behavior.

For those who don't want to be bothered with all the details of the corruption all you need to do is look at TA1, the sales job of it, the unprecedented extension of the voting, the shenanigans at LEC reps and the ALPA Int'l VP of Admin making recall efforts as difficult as possible and NONE of our so-called reps resigning. It is unprecedented as is the wave of recalls. The line pilots obviously get it.
Jerry, just stop accusing what you are guilty of. Just stop. This has been your play book for decades. First one to accuse gets the sympathy. Just stop making a mockery of our union.

jerryleber 10-17-2022 07:09 AM
Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3513995)
if that’s true section 8 is a must
It is true and has been going on for at least a year now. Article 8 is toothless in good times and even more so when the ALPA Int'l VP of Admin is a short timer, corrupt Toddler. HR protects these cowardly miscreants.

Originally Posted by Spoilers Deploy (Post 3513999)
First one to accuse gets the sympathy.
JM, Exactly. Then HR protects these so-called reps who are the antithesis of unionists.


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