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C11DCA 10-16-2022 06:23 AM

In this day and age of 30 yr First officers and 1 year Captains, who exactly is a junior pilot? Just being an FO does not make one junior.

rekatron 10-16-2022 08:39 AM

I rarely comment about this type of stuff, but one thing I've noticed is that as a younger post merger hire, it always seems like the company has its stuff together and the union is a never ending **** show dumpster fire. And with all the politicking going on right now, I can't imagine new guys have a lot of faith in their representation.

With the company rapidly turning over its seniority list, the young dudes are going to reach critical mass in short order, and I have to imagine the distaste in how everyone has handled themselves this year will have a powerful impact on future votes.

Spoilers Deploy 10-16-2022 10:38 AM

She is more senior than the C11 Capt rep and now a Capt herself. The ability to understand pilots two generations below her as new hires in the 21St Century must be a superpower.

C11DCA 10-16-2022 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Spoilers Deploy (Post 3513567)
She is more senior than the C11 Capt rep and now a Capt herself. The ability to understand pilots two generations below her as new hires in the 21St Century must be a superpower.

so how does a Captain rep who has 25+ years seniority understand a newly minted Captain who only has been on the property for 1 year and is two generations below him?

BobbyLeeSwagger 10-16-2022 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by rekatron (Post 3513521)
I rarely comment about this type of stuff, but one thing I've noticed is that as a younger post merger hire, it always seems like the company has its stuff together and the union is a never ending **** show dumpster fire. And with all the politicking going on right now, I can't imagine new guys have a lot of faith in their representation.

With the company rapidly turning over its seniority list, the young dudes are going to reach critical mass in short order, and I have to imagine the distaste in how everyone has handled themselves this year will have a powerful impact on future votes.

Yeah that's an interesting fact for sure. Millenials will be in charge soon, folks. "Hold my beer"

ugleeual 10-16-2022 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by C11DCA (Post 3513639)
so how does a Captain rep who has 25+ years seniority understand a newly minted Captain who only has been on the property for 1 year and is two generations below him?

FO rep should resign when they upgrade to Captain… this rule needs to be established. I have no issues with her being our rep… just think she should have stepped down when upgrading to 787 CA.

Spoilers Deploy 10-16-2022 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by C11DCA (Post 3513639)
so how does a Captain rep who has 25+ years seniority understand a newly minted Captain who only has been on the property for 1 year and is two generations below him?

Not a newly minted CA, just a new hire.

jerryleber 10-16-2022 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3513658)
FO rep should resign when they upgrade to Captain… this rule needs to be established. I have no issues with her being our rep… just think she should have stepped down when upgrading to 787 CA.

Should the C57 LAX FO rep when he upgraded to SFO 787 CA? How about the other three FO reps who are Captains? What council are you in?

ERAUAV8TR 10-16-2022 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3513658)
FO rep should resign when they upgrade to Captain… this rule needs to be established. I have no issues with her being our rep… just think she should have stepped down when upgrading to 787 CA.

Yes totally agree! Only cares about her paycheck.

jerryleber 10-16-2022 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3513658)
FO rep should resign when they upgrade to Captain… this rule needs to be established. I have no issues with her being our rep…


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3513682)
Yes totally agree! Only cares about her paycheck.

Her? There are four FO reps on the MEC who are Captains including the C57 LAX FO rep who is a SFO 787 CA. Should they resign?


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