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Originally Posted by TurquoiseLine (Post 3540534)

I have around 2200 hours total and was hired.

same here. A little over 2200. MIL/135/121 background. I guess they can lower the minimums just a little bit more for Military?

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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator (Post 3540637)

Do you have a military background? I was referring to pure civilian. Either way the mins can’t go much lower. There isn’t many eligible pilots left to hire.

but yet alpa keeps pushing the narrative their is no shortage

probably why we have no contract and poor pay that is over decade out of date

shake my head

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Originally Posted by TurquoiseLine (Post 3540739)

Yes I am basically all turbine PIC

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Originally Posted by Hawk739 (Post 3540858)

same here. A little over 2200. MIL/135/121 background. I guess they can lower the minimums just a little bit more for Military?

Where have you guys been, oh, I don’t know. The last 30+ years?

There’s ALWAYS been a separate boundary/parameter between mil/civ.

Its more about applicant peer set than a flat out/across the board experience level and flight time.

There was a time where standard single seat/tactical jet average time for a NH was 15-1800. Then there was even dark decade. Albeit, that funny little hiring of summer help thingy in 2007-2208.

When hiring started/picked up in 2013-2104, that number was about 1.5 that number. With the multiple platforms under their belt, multiple IP quals, all sorts of other boxes checked.

It’s all just “a sign of the times”…

I know, I know…….

…….SOMEONE is chime in with “well, I got hired in 2013-2104 with less than 2000 mil TT!!!”

Well, good for YOU!!! That was an outlier, just as back in 2013-2014, etc the low time civ RJ pilot with no PIC.

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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3540859)

but yet alpa keeps pushing the narrative their is no shortage

probably why we have no contract and poor pay that is over decade out of date

shake my head

Their narrative is there is not a shortage of pilots; they’re saying they need more compensation to be attracted/retained. They're correct in their assessment there I’d say.

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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator (Post 3540397)

United has dropped the requirement of a certain score on the Hogan as a prerequisite to be invited to interview. Dropped total hours to 2350, no TPIC and no four year degree required.

CEO says he wants to hire 8000 pilots in next 5 years. The pilot pool is really drying up.

Ran into a 756 evaluator. Says he currently can’t give an ATP only a type rating - unlike Regional Evaluators. He recently talked to a FAA inspector he knows from TK. Inspector says United is applying to give initial ATP’s for new hires like Regionals do now.

So at some time in the future I expect we will be hiring 1500 CFI’s directly to mainline like Spirit is looking to do now.

Yeah ALPA says there’s no pilot shortage, right!

Got the CJO with just under 2100 total time here, no military background no TPIC.

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Originally Posted by bumdriver (Post 3543260)

Got the CJO with just under 2100 total time here, no military background no TPIC.

Were you restricted ATP?

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Originally Posted by Sunrig (Post 3530743)

I was the outlier in my class. 16K total and 11K TPIC. Sep 21

Congratulations!
Not too many years ago they would have deemed you overqualified & tossed your app in the trash.

3200tt
1700tsic
4 types
Left regionals for ULCC
No degree
No fairs

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Originally Posted by topcat (Post 3543682)

Were you restricted ATP?

No, got the restriction removed. You need unrestricted to apply.

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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 3543705)

Congratulations!
Not too many years ago they would have deemed you overqualified & tossed your app in the trash.

Absolutely. I had applied for years and never heard a peep. I was surprised when I finally got the email. Looks like even old farts can be trained successfully. Nevertheless, happy to be here.