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Half wing 01-13-2023 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by aviator1998 (Post 3570471)
Great information, thanks. Living in DEN only 15 min from TK right now which is why it's so intriguing to me. I admittedly do have a lot of hobbies and side gigs outside of work so looking to optimize QOL for sure....I do have the passion for teaching but we'll have to see. Thanks for the info

I work way more in TK than when I was flying the line. If it’s not best held in the new contract, there will be a mass exodus back to the line, mostly in Denver.

Chuck D 01-13-2023 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Half wing (Post 3570504)
I work way more in TK than when I was flying the line. If it’s not best held in the new contract, there will be a mass exodus back to the line, mostly in Denver.

I'm going to guess if TUMI2.0 continues to drag on there's going to be a good sized flow out of the building after vacation selection also.

Expat007 01-13-2023 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Half wing (Post 3570504)
I work way more in TK than when I was flying the line. If it’s not best held in the new contract, there will be a mass exodus back to the line, mostly in Denver.

Do you need to be DEN base? How is it for someone whose base is EWR? Thank you in advance.

Oma4545 01-13-2023 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Expat007 (Post 3570517)
Do you need to be DEN base? How is it for someone whose base is EWR? Thank you in advance.

I don’t know why you’d ever commute to TK. It’s good as a local but you will be gone a ton as a commuter.

Furloughedboi 01-13-2023 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Expat007 (Post 3570517)
Do you need to be DEN base? How is it for someone whose base is EWR? Thank you in advance.

You can commute, but hotels and commuting are on you.
The only benefit as a commuter for TK is that all your currency fly days (30 NB, 36 WB) are based out of DEN. So if you pick up a trip from EWR, for example, that is a EWR turn, they have to build a DH DEN-EWR_____EWR-DEN, and those DH’s count as fly days. So a commuter can turn 1 day of flying into 3 fly days.

That’s the only benefit I can think of as a commuter. Cons are you’re commuting to a job that allows you to be home every night for local pilots. To me that doesn’t seem worth it but to each his own

aviator1998 01-13-2023 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Furloughedboi (Post 3570534)
You can commute, but hotels and commuting are on you.
The only benefit as a commuter for TK is that all your currency fly days (30 NB, 36 WB) are based out of DEN. So if you pick up a trip from EWR, for example, that is a EWR turn, they have to build a DH DEN-EWR_____EWR-DEN, and those DH’s count as fly days. So a commuter can turn 1 day of flying into 3 fly days.

That’s the only benefit I can think of as a commuter. Cons are you’re commuting to a job that allows you to be home every night for local pilots. To me that doesn’t seem worth it but to each his own

So just to confirm it's 30/36 fly days per year? It really sounds like if you enjoy the teaching then this is a gold mine for someone who lives in the DEN area to sleep in their own bed every night and make decent money while they build some seniority on property

ThumbsUp 01-13-2023 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by aviator1998 (Post 3570594)
So just to confirm it's 30/36 fly days per year? It really sounds like if you enjoy the teaching then this is a gold mine for someone who lives in the DEN area to sleep in their own bed every night and make decent money while they build some seniority on property

Ask some of the near-new hire TK instructors how their schedules are. My understanding is that they can be pretty rough.

EwrRocks 01-13-2023 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by aviator1998 (Post 3570594)
So just to confirm it's 30/36 fly days per year? It really sounds like if you enjoy the teaching then this is a gold mine for someone who lives in the DEN area to sleep in their own bed every night and make decent money while they build some seniority on property

Sure, if you like months of 12 days off working all 2000-0200 or 0400-1000 shifts on weekends as many that are junior do. Once you get Senior you get better schedules but then you would make more $ on the line, with more days off and better working hours.

This is why there has been an exodus leaving in last year or 2, and without a new contract in next couple of months I expect that exodus to continue or even grow.

unstabilized 01-13-2023 11:58 AM

Kinda hijacking this thread but It pertains to TK intstructing.

Is is possible to put a paper bid in for a different Seat/Plane while in TK? IE: 767 PI bids for 737 CA, still intends to teach for the time being.

Does it have any benefit/cons to do so?

Half wing 01-13-2023 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by unstabilized (Post 3570693)
Kinda hijacking this thread but It pertains to TK intstructing.

Is is possible to put a paper bid in for a different Seat/Plane while in TK? IE: 767 PI bids for 737 CA, still intends to teach for the time being.

Does it have any benefit/cons to do so?

yes, that’s how it works. You have a “paper bid”. That’s where you would go if you quit or get fired from TK.


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