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Originally Posted by EwrRocks
(Post 3570670)
Sure, if you like months of 12 days off working all 2000-0200 or 0400-1000 shifts on weekends as many that are junior do. Once you get Senior you get better schedules but then you would make more $ on the line, with more days off and better working hours.
This is why there has been an exodus leaving in last year or 2, and without a new contract in next couple of months I expect that exodus to continue or even grow. I view TK as a great spot for junior pilots in DEN who like to teach, but time will tell. If you’re a senior FO who commutes, I don’t personally understand the decision, but maybe I will when I’m senior. |
Originally Posted by Furloughedboi
(Post 3570770)
I view TK as a great spot for junior pilots in DEN who like to teach, but time will tell. If you’re a senior FO who commutes, I don’t personally understand the decision, but maybe I will when I’m senior.
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Originally Posted by aviator1998
(Post 3570791)
What pay rate would a FO fresh off probation be paid at for TK work?
Based on being senior to the most junior widebody FO in this case. |
Originally Posted by sobo
(Post 3570800)
Currently, 2nd year widebody pay, 90 hours guarantee, $810 /mo override.
Based on being senior to the most junior widebody FO in this case. |
I personally never understood the “you can make much more money on the line”. You absolutely could make more money on the line, but you’re gonna work for it. By my calculations, I would have to work an 80 hour line as a 737 captain to make the same amount as an instructor. Plus if I pick up some overtime, it makes the difference even smaller.
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Originally Posted by sobo
(Post 3570800)
Currently, 2nd year widebody pay, 90 hours guarantee, $810 /mo override.
Based on being senior to the most junior widebody FO in this case. |
Aside from potentially "having to work harder" is there any reason a junior FO who lives 15 minutes from TK shouldn't try and become an instructor?
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Originally Posted by Broncofan
(Post 3570863)
I personally never understood the “you can make much more money on the line”. You absolutely could make more money on the line, but you’re gonna work for it. By my calculations, I would have to work an 80 hour line as a 737 captain to make the same amount as an instructor. Plus if I pick up some overtime, it makes the difference even smaller.
15 days off 89:54 line 306:55 TAFB $26,764 base + $814 PD = $27,578 TK in February: 13 days off 90:00 line $1285 override $22,292 base + $1285 OR = $23,292 Math says $4,286 more in February on the line then in TK, and with 2 more days off. That’s TK making more than $51,000 less per year with 15-20 days off less per year. Sure you can pick up OT right now at TK, if you did the max of 3 OT you would then match the $ of the 15 day off line, but would then only have 10 days off vs 15. |
Originally Posted by EwrRocks
(Post 3570966)
The pilot 1 number jr to me in base February:
15 days off 89:54 line 306:55 TAFB $26,764 base + $814 PD = $27,578 TK in February: 13 days off 90:00 line $1285 override $22,292 base + $1285 OR = $23,292 Math says $4,286 more in February on the line than in TK, and with 2 more days off. That’s TK making more than $51,000 less per year with 15-20 days off less per year. Sure you can pick up OT right now at TK, if you did the max of 3 OT you would then match the $ of the 15 day off line, but would then only have 10 days off vs 15. if your local (and close) it’s completely worth it if you like instructing. I would never understand commuting to it though. |
If you like denver, have small kids, and/or need to be home every night then TK is a great gig.
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