Big Picture Tumi 3
03-03-2023 | 05:36 AM
#122
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That is exactly right. Anybody who thought that 5% was somehow going to be protected or not considered in section 6 was naive… and I personally was a supporter of the LoA (and was in the upper end of the middle-third).
It appears we are in very good hands and will not be given a subpar TUMI 1+ to vote on.
It appears we are in very good hands and will not be given a subpar TUMI 1+ to vote on.
03-03-2023 | 07:32 AM
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If this goes to the NMB they will see it this way too. They will analyze how the total cost of the Delta agreement compares to our potential deal and not be concerned how we got here. The 5% will be lost in the shuffle and our deal will be on par with what Delta set as the new industry standard. We’ll get a say in how the pie is divided, but expecting a significantly bigger pie than Delta isn’t realistic, not even in this market.
03-03-2023 | 08:00 AM
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The market is now set by a mediator in a negotiation with our direct pier. I’m good with the union asking for 10b, just as I’m not angry for the company to start at 5b. The market and more importantly the leverage for the next Tumi will likely be 7.5b or so, it’s now just figuring out how best to get there. There will be lots of noise from both sides till the day it’s done. There is no incentive for either side to continue to drag this out. Count me as one who feels it’s done sooner than later.
03-03-2023 | 08:03 AM
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The market is now set by a mediator in a negotiation with our direct pier. I’m good with the union asking for 10b, just as I’m not angry for the company to start at 5b. The market and more importantly the leverage for the next Tumi will likely be 7.5b or so, it’s now just figuring out how best to get there. There will be lots of noise from both sides till the day it’s done. There is no incentive for either side to continue to drag this out. Count me as one who feels it’s done sooner than later.
03-03-2023 | 08:12 AM
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My patience will be pretty worn out by the end of next week. Company and union had the Delta yardstick and a not unreasonable assumption that it was likely to pass so we could have seen something even before today. We can’t fill Captain spots and have planes coming like never before. This needs to get resolved and we need to move on. A strong contract that tops Delta is expensive as it should be and gets us back to the top of everyone’s application wish list.
03-03-2023 | 09:35 AM
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03-03-2023 | 12:01 PM
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Sounds like you think 7.2B in improvements will get us to parity with DAL. It won't. It'll take a larger get than 7.2 just to get us even. Some in management, and even a few reps in west coast domiciles, will try to make you feel guilty for wanting more than 7.2. You'll know it's a trick when they say "quality contract" in their communication.
03-03-2023 | 04:05 PM
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Sounds like you think 7.2B in improvements will get us to parity with DAL. It won't. It'll take a larger get than 7.2 just to get us even. Some in management, and even a few reps in west coast domiciles, will try to make you feel guilty for wanting more than 7.2. You'll know it's a trick when they say "quality contract" in their communication.
03-03-2023 | 04:12 PM
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