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Originally Posted by Spesiellsporing
(Post 3623909)
Another management talking point. C2000 was the downfall of the company so make sure you don't ask for too much. Guess that lil' dilly is still making the rounds at Willis eh?
Nevermind that United faced 9/11, the Dot Com bust, SARs, and a little dust up in the desert. A little unknown secret management boy, it was the 10 worst years the INDUSTRY had seen. Case in point.... Let's say that WB crew now made $750 and $500. I'll even add in another $500 for the IRO since most are single augmented. Each pax would only be paying EIGHT dollars per hour for the crew salary, based on an 80% load factor. And IAHflyr implies that that would chock the golden goose??? YGBFKM |
Originally Posted by Spesiellsporing
(Post 3623909)
Another management talking point. C2000 was the downfall of the company so make sure you don't ask for too much. Guess that lil' dilly is still making the rounds at Willis eh?
Nevermind that United faced 9/11, the Dot Com bust, SARs, and a little dust up in the desert. A little unknown secret management boy, it was the 10 worst years the INDUSTRY had seen. |
Originally Posted by iahflyr
(Post 3623901)
Yes, I vividly remember. 10+ of the worst years United has ever seen followed. Dubinsky choked the golden goose alright!
so contract 2000 not 9/11 not SARS not fuel crisis not banking and real estate collapse from 2000-2010 was the reason according to you ? please stay away from any union position we don’t need you to volunteer |
Originally Posted by Sniper66
(Post 3624040)
so contract 2000
not 9/11 not SARS not fuel crisis not banking and real estate collapse from 2000-2010 was the reason according to you ? please stay away from any union position we don’t need you to volunteer |
Originally Posted by Barley
(Post 3624060)
Hey give iahflyer a break. He just wants to get back to the good times of tens of billions of dollars in stock buybacks.
oh I forgot that thanks for mentioning it to add to the fire , have you noticed they paid 5 billion down towards their debt? folks They say ALPA asks for 10.2 they offered 7.2 B the truth is somewhere in between they offered 6 and we asked for 9 my opinion so let’s call it the day with 8 ! What’s a billion for United ? 2 months of net income for now 2023 lets be real and let’s get this contract done . |
Originally Posted by Sniper66
(Post 3624077)
oh I forgot that
thanks for mentioning it to add to the fire , have you noticed they paid 5 billion down towards their debt? folks They say ALPA asks for 10.2 they offered 7.2 B the truth is somewhere in between they offered 6 and we asked for 9 my opinion so let’s call it the day with 8 ! What’s a billion for United ? 2 months of net income for now 2023 lets be real and let’s get this contract done . We’ve NEVER had so much leverage as we do now |
Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
(Post 3624248)
How about we get it done RIGHT (QOL) instead of expeditiously.
We’ve NEVER had so much leverage as we do now |
Originally Posted by Chuck D
(Post 3624262)
maybe some people’s version of “right” ...
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
(Post 3624248)
How about we get it done RIGHT (QOL) instead of expeditiously.
We’ve NEVER had so much leverage as we do now I agree and it will be eventually |
Originally Posted by Chuck D
(Post 3624262)
maybe some people’s version of “right” is so rigid that its gonna keep us at current QOL for the foreseeable future, which seems shortsighted, while we try to achieve perfection (which is what exactly?). Just one guy, but give me outstanding pay, improve reserve and other hot items, make it clearly Delta plus, and let’s get it done.
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