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Originally Posted by 500RVR;[url=tel:3619914
3619914]Heard it was for a serious health issue.
Also new position isn’t the position that Bryan had. It’s a watered down version. |
Originally Posted by Hedley
(Post 3620113)
All anyone talks about here is reserve.
Other than pay, which will be industry leading (even mgt knows that), what "other bigger items" are of concern to you? Believe me, you will get buy-in from the "fix reserve crowd". But, it won't be, "Do your stuff and then if any "negotiating pie" is left over sweep the crumbs towards fixing reserve" which the senior guys appear to tout.. |
Originally Posted by Race Bannon
(Post 3620269)
Other than pay, which will be industry leading (even mgt knows that), what "other bigger items" are of concern to you? Believe me, you will get buy-in from the "fix reserve crowd". But, it won't be, "Do your stuff and then if any "negotiating pie" is left over sweep the crumbs towards fixing reserve" which the senior guys appear to tout.. Increased retirement contributions- B fund, 401(k), etc. Increased LTD cap Increased sick leave accrual, including better rapid accrual when depleted Increased vacation credit Increased training credit- training pays like a flight Increased trip protections/more stringent reassignment rules Significant add pay for trip extensions/ reassignments Increased accountability rules on scheduling for staffing levels- make it easier to drop and trade trips Tighter rules establishing the G-line Overs protected on a per leg basis Rates that exceed Delta Me too clause Improved trip rigs for long layovers, airport appreciation, etc. Premium pay at 100% minimum Instructors at TK paid what they can hold Furlough protections And yes, our reserve rules need significant improvements. I’m not going to get everything that I want, and those focused on reserve rules won’t either. It will be a compromise and we’ll have an opportunity to vote on the package in its entirety……….eventually. |
Originally Posted by Hedley
(Post 3620292)
No scope creep, tighten the language
Increased retirement contributions- B fund, 401(k), etc. Increased LTD cap Increased sick leave accrual, including better rapid accrual when depleted Increased vacation credit Increased training credit- training pays like a flight Increased trip protections/more stringent reassignment rules Significant add pay for trip extensions/ reassignments Increased accountability rules on scheduling for staffing levels- make it easier to drop and trade trips Tighter rules establishing the G-line Overs protected on a per leg basis Rates that exceed Delta Me too clause Improved trip rigs for long layovers, airport appreciation, etc. Premium pay at 100% minimum Instructors at TK paid what they can hold Furlough protections And yes, our reserve rules need significant improvements. I’m not going to get everything that I want, and those focused on reserve rules won’t either. It will be a compromise and we’ll have an opportunity to vote on the package in its entirety……….eventually. |
Originally Posted by serce
(Post 3620301)
The problem is that reserve rules received no improvement.
Agreed. A lot of guys lost their jobs because of it too(rightfully so). Hopefully the direction from the new MEC to the old /current NC chairman is more in touch this time around. We still have posters that feel that improving things for the senior guys is more important than bringing reserve(the whole package) up to industry standard. |
Originally Posted by serce
(Post 3620301)
The problem is that reserve rules received no improvement.
From the last negotiations notes: Agreed: No involuntary assignment before 10 a.m. on Day 1 of a reserve block Elimination of flexible day off (FDOs) for Global categories Option to split holy days off (HDOs) into two shorter periods in Global categories Voluntary Long Call Reserve lines where short call (SC) and field standby (FSB) is only through aggressive pick-up (APU) Reserves maintain original scheduled release time when deviating Increased restrictions on assigning Visiting Reserves All unused Short Call assignments receive 1 hour of additional minimum pay guarantee (MPG) Trip trades between reserves Reserve day-for-day trades Add Pay for reserve rolled days off Add Pay for late build Short Calls Improved release times if unused on last day of reserve Add Pay for voluntary assignments that start prior to 10 a.m. on Day 1 Open Items: Increase in number of reserve days off Increase in the daily value of reserve guarantee Pilot option to add an additional reserve day in high LPA months Short Call caps Elimination of FDOs for Basic categories Elimination of involuntary FSB Improved voluntary reserve options Improved Long Call and Short Call callout times Increased pay for voluntary FSB Remove crew desk discretion from reserve assignment order Incentives to avoid involuntarily rolling of reserve days off |
Originally Posted by Hedley
(Post 3620307)
There are improvements agreed to, and open. Until it’s finalized, we can’t really judge it. The reserve first crowd isn’t going to get everything that they want, and the reserve last crowd won’t either.
From the last negotiations notes: Agreed: No involuntary assignment before 10 a.m. on Day 1 of a reserve block Elimination of flexible day off (FDOs) for Global categories Option to split holy days off (HDOs) into two shorter periods in Global categories Voluntary Long Call Reserve lines where short call (SC) and field standby (FSB) is only through aggressive pick-up (APU) Reserves maintain original scheduled release time when deviating Increased restrictions on assigning Visiting Reserves All unused Short Call assignments receive 1 hour of additional minimum pay guarantee (MPG) Trip trades between reserves Reserve day-for-day trades Add Pay for reserve rolled days off Add Pay for late build Short Calls Improved release times if unused on last day of reserve Add Pay for voluntary assignments that start prior to 10 a.m. on Day 1 Open Items: Increase in number of reserve days off Increase in the daily value of reserve guarantee Pilot option to add an additional reserve day in high LPA months Short Call caps Elimination of FDOs for Basic categories Elimination of involuntary FSB Improved voluntary reserve options Improved Long Call and Short Call callout times Increased pay for voluntary FSB Remove crew desk discretion from reserve assignment order Incentives to avoid involuntarily rolling of reserve days off Elimination of FDO's for global reserve virtually makes no difference. Global reserve is United invention, it should be abolished all together. No one else has it. |
Originally Posted by Hedley
(Post 3620307)
There are improvements agreed to, and open. Until it’s finalized, we can’t really judge it. The reserve first crowd isn’t going to get everything that they want, and the reserve last crowd won’t either.
From the last negotiations notes: Agreed: No involuntary assignment before 10 a.m. on Day 1 of a reserve block Elimination of flexible day off (FDOs) for Global categories Option to split holy days off (HDOs) into two shorter periods in Global categories Voluntary Long Call Reserve lines where short call (SC) and field standby (FSB) is only through aggressive pick-up (APU) Reserves maintain original scheduled release time when deviating Increased restrictions on assigning Visiting Reserves All unused Short Call assignments receive 1 hour of additional minimum pay guarantee (MPG) Trip trades between reserves Reserve day-for-day trades Add Pay for reserve rolled days off Add Pay for late build Short Calls Improved release times if unused on last day of reserve Add Pay for voluntary assignments that start prior to 10 a.m. on Day 1 Open Items: Increase in number of reserve days off Increase in the daily value of reserve guarantee Pilot option to add an additional reserve day in high LPA months Short Call caps Elimination of FDOs for Basic categories Elimination of involuntary FSB Improved voluntary reserve options Improved Long Call and Short Call callout times Increased pay for voluntary FSB Remove crew desk discretion from reserve assignment order Incentives to avoid involuntarily rolling of reserve days off we may as well roll the dice and vote in a contract with these rules. Odds are that they still cannot fill the CA vacancies. Then the company needs to consider an LOA with improvements …. |
Unfortunately, while the list of agreed items is long it's a mere Pfft!!! towards fixing reserve. It's the things in the "open items" that are the important items, and mostly fall into the Delta standard, that will actually make reserve better and in line with industry standard.
Pretty bad when the rallying cry of a major airline is, "Give me industry standard !!" And that's why "reserve" is a hot topic on the forum. JMHO edit... TFAYD beat me to it |
Originally Posted by serce
(Post 3620139)
10 AM show on day one, Jetblue is 1400. That alone makes it non-commutable for a large percentage of the pilot group. 30 percent of the pilot group is on reserve. Reserve is not a choice, it's a matter of bad luck. I spent 14 years on reserve and it was not by choice.
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