Originally Posted by JackReacher (Post 3620422)

It’s obvious you haven’t spent time at a major during economic downturns with comments like these. Reserve isn’t always a choice, and many times you cant move within BES if there aren’t any vacancies or displacements. When UAL reserve rules are worse than every other Major and LCC, to include the likes of Spirit, Allegiant and Frontier, then there is problem. It’s about as obvious as a 10 pound tick on a 5 pound dog. The reserve rules MUST change and change now. I’m pretty sure your thinking is in the minority.

Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3620419)

We DON'T have that in our current contract. Go read it if you doubt me. We are 'protected' by the FAR and the FAAs current interpretation of what constitutes duty.

Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 3620402)

I spent 8 years at regionals, all of which were commuting and for the most part, a 3 leg commute to reserve, but that was my choice to follow my wife’s career. Then spent 3 years at United commuting to global reserve. I understand that it sucks. However I don’t want to spend too much time and money negotiating for it. Some things in global reserve need to change, however the vast majority of guys on reserve right now choose to be there. Also if you live in base, there isn’t much to complain about besides the onslaught of FSB’s and short calls which seem to be getting taken care of. Sure sometimes reserve isn’t a choice, but despite what you say, everyone has the ability to move in base, just whether or not you choose to is up to you. My concern is guys are going to get an overall good contract in front of them but turn it down because first day call out is 10 am.. the horror.

Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 3620374)

In my 25.5 years with UAL I’ve spent a grand total of about 10 years on reserve. INCLUDING being shipped back to reserve during the lovely spring and summer of 2020 when I only had 23.5 years seniority with UAL. I also spent an additional sentence at TK to avoid reserve after getting mauled on the ISL while watching folks with 10 years less time on property enjoy holding a line on my desired seats.

So when I see a comment like yours regarding if you don’t want to be on reserve don’t bid it. I immediately assume you have been coddled in your career and haven’t yet experienced the realities of an airline industry induced B-slap. And your credibility with me drops to just below zero.

We need to fix reserve so it’s livable and commutable. Because you never know when the aviation gods are going to smite thee with yet another stint of commuting to reserve. Without solid meaningful reserve improvements, I’m a hard no vote.

Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 3620338)

sounds like you shouldn’t bid reserve.. honestly I’m not too worried about reserve rules. They aren’t the best but I have had much worse in my career. I also avoid it. This is a company problem. If they don’t fix it, they will continue to have a hard time filling Captain slots. Worst case scenario people stop coming to Indoc classes because of it and they will have to do something about it. Until then, i’m just going to continue to avoid bidding for BES that would put me on reserve.

Originally Posted by dmeg13021 (Post 3620429)

The company would love it if everyone moved to base. The pilot group should want everyone to live exactly where they want, whenever they want.

Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3620748)

I’d love to move to base, but every base we have is expensive as crap. I can’t afford it.